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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/10 18:52:25 (permalink)
savioThanks!  This video may contain the answer.  Just previewed it, and it mentions the exact issue I'm experiencing. 

 
That pretty much sums it all up.........I watched the first few minutes of the video and it does mention a fix for the same problem you posted early on:
It's the ASIO4ALL audio output that Sonar isn't accepting; going into "Prefences"-Audio-etc. simply tells me what I already know--no sound card output.
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Good luck I'm sure you'll get it working.
 
To everyone else.....don't get yer panties in a bunch ladies. Oh and I have 2 hard drives and 8 gigs of Ram and..........
 
 
 
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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/10 19:33:36 (permalink)
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savioThanks!  This video may contain the answer.  Just previewed it, and it mentions the exact issue I'm experiencing. 

 
That pretty much sums it all up.........I watched the first few minutes of the video and it does mention a fix for the same problem you posted early on:
It's the ASIO4ALL audio output that Sonar isn't accepting; going into "Prefences"-Audio-etc. simply tells me what I already know--no sound card output.
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Good luck I'm sure you'll get it working.
 
To everyone else.....don't get yer panties in a bunch ladies. Oh and I have 2 hard drives and 8 gigs of Ram and..........
 
 
 




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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/10 20:53:47 (permalink)
My luck continues to be about zero with this issue.  The Youtube video seemed to explain the issue, but came up short on solutions.  (!)  At any rate, looked at my ASIO4ALL WDM list, where "Realteck HD Audio Line input" is X'd out.  ("Status: Unavailable!")  I found a couple threads online that discuss this very problem, but no luck with the proposed solutions.  Here's the most pertinent one:  
 
My main question at this point: If I get an audio interface, will it bypass the sound set-up in my PC, thus ending the ASIO4ALL-vs.-Windows 7 conflicts?
 
And Realiteck HD Audio refers to...?  I know it's not a sound card, but is it a... what?  Driver?  
 
Please let me know if an audio interface will take over the functions (not) being performed by my PC and the temperamental ASIO4ALL driver....  Thanks!
 
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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/10 20:56:13 (permalink)
Okay, why can't I insert a link?  
 
I type a heading, highlight it, press the Insert/Edit Link button, enter the link, get underlined text.  I save it.
 
Then, nothing.  Aieee.  At this point, I'm faced with two options: 1) laughing softly to myself as I sit here, humming a fragment of a nursery tune over and over, or 2) staring straight ahead, dribbling my lips.  Suggestions?
 
post edited by savio - 2013/07/10 21:05:18
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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/10 21:03:35 (permalink)
As an anti-spam measure, new users are not permitted to insert links.
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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/10 21:07:25 (permalink)
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As an anti-spam measure, new users are not permitted to insert links.


Oh.  Dang.  Thanks.  Oh, well, anyway, there are a couple of threads, and likely more, that address the same issue.  It appears to be a common ASIO/Windows 7 snare.
 
So... will an audio interface bypass the whole PC sound mess?  This is what I'm hoping (as a "newbie" to audio interfaces but eager to go that roue).
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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/10 21:13:05 (permalink)
The good news is that an audio interface designed for DAW will make using the DAW easier and more reliable. You can still use windows sound for other purposes or you can route everything through the new audio interface, your choice.
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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/10 22:39:16 (permalink)
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The good news is that an audio interface designed for DAW will make using the DAW easier and more reliable. You can still use windows sound for other purposes or you can route everything through the new audio interface, your choice.


That's what I need to hear!  Cool; thanks.  What prices are we looking at?  For a decent interface, that is.  I don't need the best (except for software; that's why I chose Cakewalk).  I think the cheapest I spotted on line was $199.00-ish.  (Always wanted to type "$199.00-ish".)
 
Though my driver/Windows issue persists, I've learned a ton of stuff from this thread so far.  Many thanks to all!
 
As I mentioned earlier, I owned my first music composing software in the late 1980s.  My Macintosh 512K could do everything needed, MIDI-wise, including sound on sound, but of course couldn't make audio files, let alone mix them.  My Mac lasted all the way to 2000, or thereabouts!  My only post-Mac composing software has been Noteworthy Composer, which is a fine, cheap program but, of course, limited.  Hence, Sonar has been a challenge, but mostly a rewarding one (when I'm not foaming at the mouth).
 
By the way, now that I realize I have a driver/motherboard setup and not a sound card, this probably accounts for why I'm not finding sound card menus in Windows.  No sound card=no sound card menu.  Like I said, I'm learning a lot.
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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/10 22:53:42 (permalink)
Depends on your I/O requirements. The Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 is a decent budget solution for about $150 and is definitely a trade up from your current situation. 
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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/10 23:15:45 (permalink)
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Depends on your I/O requirements. The Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 is a decent budget solution for about $150 and is definitely a trade up from your current situation. 




Input/output?  Mine is very basic.  I'm primarily interested in mixing the excellent Casio audio I have, as opposed to operating multiple boxes/stations/whatever.  (Such is my low tech curve!)  I'll check out the Focusrite Scarlett 212.  I'm very excited about this, since I've been getting great Sonar results despite the PC issues.
 
The audio in this mp3 sounds much better coming from Sonar, but it gives an idea.  A tune I wrote c. 2000: //app.box.com/s/1aye4r3xawmbopelux9g  (Add the https:, and the link should be good to go).
 
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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/11 01:38:03 (permalink)
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I watched the first few minutes of the video and it does mention a fix for the same problem you posted early on:



Unfortunately, the fix didn't work for me!  (It's something I'd tried already, too....)  His next solution is to install another sound card.  
 
Which, of course, I can't do, since I don't have one in the first place!  However, an audio interface should solve my issue.
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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/11 02:37:20 (permalink)
Audio interfaces that would do the trick start at around $150, and a larger number are available for around $199.
 
You will want to make sure which ever one you get has drivers for Windows 7, and realistically Windows 8.
 
There are some with USB connections, some with FireWire, and PCI/PCIe.
 
I happen to use an interface with a USB connection - please note that many USB equipped audio interfaces do not play nicely in USB 3.0 ports, so just make sure you use a USB 2.0 port.
 
Just about everybody in the forum can help get you up and going if you have any interface configuration issues, so don't worry.
 
Audio Interfaces move the process of analog/digital conversion away from the CPU, in addition to having pre-amps and inputs/outputs and such.  This will make your CPU work much less hard to do audio processing in Sonar.
 
Hope that helps, 
 
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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/11 03:24:31 (permalink)
If you are looking for an audio interface I suggest you put Roland on your shortlist. A Duo Capture EX would probably be sufficient. The Quadcapture adds digital ports.

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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/11 03:41:31 (permalink)
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savioThanks!  This video may contain the answer.  Just previewed it, and it mentions the exact issue I'm experiencing. 
 That pretty much sums it all up.........I watched the first few minutes of the video and it does mention a fix for the same problem you posted early on:
It's the ASIO4ALL audio output that Sonar isn't accepting; going into "Prefences"-Audio-etc. simply tells me what I already know--no sound card output.
. Good luck I'm sure you'll get it working. To everyone else.....don't get yer panties in a bunch ladies. Oh and I have 2 hard drives and 8 gigs of Ram and..........   


Oh dear..

And now it seems that the OP has already tried the solution in the video, and it didn't work.

And it appears he hasn't got it working with your help.

Having accertained that he using his internal sound card, by asking his specs, sensible advice to try an audio interface was given.

And one more thing. In your rant quoted above, you call everybody "ladies". Do you see that as a term of abuse? That sort of mysogenistic comment went out last century, but does tell me a lot about you, and your view of women, and people in general.

Have a good day.

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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/11 11:58:23 (permalink)
There does seem to be a small subset of folks who just seem to be unhappy people, and intent on making the rest of the forum unhappy too.  It is rather annoying.
 
To the original poster - I hope you don't picking through the useless posts to come away with useful and helpful information.  Please feel free to ask away and many of us will do our best to assist you through whatever issues you come across.
 
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Sonar: Platinum (x64), X3 (x64) 
Audio Interfaces: AudioBox 1818VSL, Steinberg UR-22
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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/11 12:39:34 (permalink)
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There does seem to be a small subset of folks who just seem to be unhappy people, and intent on making the rest of the forum unhappy too.  It is rather annoying.
 



I'm happy, hope you're happy too (all of you).
 
OP: I second the sound card recommendations. It is an investment that will pay you back day after day.
 
Regards


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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/11 16:51:24 (permalink)
Your world will be a much nicer place with a dedicated audio interface. :-)

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Re: Sonar X2's help pages seem utterly incompatible with my Windows 7 2013/07/11 17:56:49 (permalink)
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robert_e_bone
There does seem to be a small subset of folks who just seem to be unhappy people, and intent on making the rest of the forum unhappy too.  It is rather annoying.
 



I'm happy, hope you're happy too (all of you).
 
 
Regards



I'm happy, too, mmorgan, and happy to hear that you're happy.
 
I hope everyone is happy as well.

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