Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ideas?

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Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ideas?

So the latest version of fully updated Malwarebytes has labeled the .exe's (installers) for the Digital Vault Gen 16 Zildjian pack and the 2011 BFD Eco X-Mas freebie as threats. There are four entries, two from my desktop and two in my downloads folder. This kind of makes sense because I always copy downloads from the containing folder and put them on my desktop but also kind of DON'T make sense because a) I just ran CCleaner which should have cleared my download folder and b) I have the actual DVDs for the Zildjian pack and don't recall downloading anything (but maybe it's an update I have since forgotten I installed).
 
So my questions are:
 
Have any other BFD Eco users had this happen?
 
Are these false positives?
 
Should I just leave them alone?
 
Thanks.
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    Beepster
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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 13:25:27 (permalink)
    Gah. Google has become useless for searching stuff like this. Used to be you could plug in search terms for malware results and find info. Now it's just a bunch of garbledy gook sites and other unrelated crap. Lame.
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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 13:26:48 (permalink)
    Perhaps they are not downloaded a lot like some things are and it is just seeing that and being coutious. I get warnings from Norton sometimes when I download an audio program that isn't widely downloaded... maybe?
     
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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 13:33:50 (permalink)
    Hi, jbow. That's what I'm thinking. Just curious to see if any of you guys who use Eco have gotten the same thing. I do find it odd that it didn't detect any of the other BFD exe and stuff on the system though. The X-Mas thing came straight from the FXpansion site through my account. I don't think I've even installed it. Perhaps it's good that I haven't.
     
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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 13:39:22 (permalink)
    I'm gonna just let Malwarebytes "fix" them. They're just installer files anyway so I can always get at them again if I need to. Still curious to know whether anyone else has seen this and I guess seeing as how google search isn't coming up with anything at least now it's documented. Cheers.
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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 13:50:53 (permalink)
    Sorry for multiple posts but I figure some folks may be interested. After doing the CCleaner registry scan/fix and running the main cleaner and doing this Malwarebytes scan/fix I can open X2 with absolutely no lag or whitescreen. I'm assuming this has more to do with the CCleaner stuff (it got rid of a LOT of junk that I have no idea where it came from). I've always had to wait a few seconds while opening X2 and inevitably got another few seconds of whitescreen as well as lag when opening projects and sometimes a brief whitescreen. Just now I opened the same project I've been messing with for a while in X2 a) opened immediately without any glitchiness and b) the project just sprung to life and was ready to playback before I even had a chance to click Play.
     
    Maybe freaking audiosnap will work better now too. Sweet.
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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 14:40:40 (permalink)
    I'd be carefully with registry fixers. They can easily cause programs not to work correctly. As long as you aren't installing crap off the Internet all the time there really is no need to fix the registry IMO.

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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 15:16:37 (permalink)
    I hear ya but CCleaner isn't really one of the nasty ones unless you set it up to be. I may have borked up something considering how much it yanked off the system but Sonar seems to be working fine and I have restore points and an image from not too long ago and CCleaner made restore points too before the doing the clean. I also want to totally wipe the system and start from scratch or use the original image I made right after I had built the system and configured windows but before I started installing my audio programs. I need to set my directories up properly and want to call Cakewalk to get some more definitive optimization tweaks as well as do the set up with all the knowledge I've acquired in the past year.
     
    It will be much better methinks and perhaps solve some of the the little glitches I run into. At the very least the file structure won't be as ridiculous and it'll clear out any junk I know I don't want to deal with on the system.
     
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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 15:19:38 (permalink)
    Oh and just installing, uninstalling programs, moving and deleting files, etc can do weird stuff that CCleaner fixes. There were a ton of broken dlls that got removed so it did something... not to mention I do use it to download the stuff I buy instead of dling on another machine and transferring over which is kind of a hassle for such large programs and libraries.
     
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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 15:25:02 (permalink)
    The most important thing about running a registry cleaner is to always back up the registry before you do it, and I believe CCleaner gives you the option to do this. To be honest I don't think registry cleans make much of difference to your system. They don't "fix" corrupt or missing or erroneous registry entries, they just clear out stuff that's being unused. And in a registry that contains 100's of 1000's of keys, deleting a couple of hundred of them isn't going to yield any performance gains. Same thing with registry "defraggers" which get advertised a lot - the entire registry is loaded into memory at startup so defragging it will only, if anything, affect boot times. 
     
    Having said that, none of this stops me from running the cleaner now and then during idle moments 

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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 15:33:56 (permalink)
    I was actually quite surprised that I got a performance boost at least in regards to how quickly Sonar responded. I was just checking to make sure it still worked and was pleasantly surprised. Perhaps some not so pleasant surprises await me but frankly my dear... I don't give a poop. I've got to set this thing back up anyway so if I broke it then that'll be a good excuse to quit arsing around. I'm not making any music at the moment right now anyway as I sort out some other much more annoying crap.
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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 15:55:15 (permalink)
    Beep it might not be the CC Reg CLeaner that's giving you a performance boost - it could well arise from it's general cleaning up routines on your files - like Temporary Internet Folders, Temp folders etc.

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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 16:11:05 (permalink)
    Interesting. I didn't know internet files could bog down a system like that... especially when offline and using programs unrelated to internet browsing. On my internet machine I clear my cache daily because I find it keeps the browser snappy and keeps streaming vids moving better but yeah... didn't think it would affect Sonar. Oh and I do keep my browser cache clear on the DAW but that doesn't seem to clear my general internet cache.
     
    Noted and marked for further pondering in the Beepster Brain Banks. Cheers.
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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 16:30:17 (permalink)
    Beepster : To answer your questions :
     
     * No, and this using web downloads direct from the purchasing site(s)
     
     * Yes, happens also with most any anti-virus at one time or another
     
     * Yes, as long as you downloaded from a reputable source.
     
    I only use the Registry part of Ccleaner, I set my web browser to erase temporary files after 3 days and limit the size of the cache to 250 MB. My personal preferences.
     
    Once a month, I run Ccleaner alongside Malwarebytes and a quick scan of MSE. That catches 99.99% of things.
     
    FYI, Ccleaner is the most downloaded software in France, according to OneNet. So I think its very safe to use, but then you'll always have sceptics.
     
    So don't worry about the false positives long as you downloaded from a reputable source.
     
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    Re: Malwarebytes label: BFD Eco Gen 16 Zildjian pack and X-Mas Freebie as "Rogue". Any ide 2013/07/12 17:13:48 (permalink)
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    I'd be carefully with registry fixers. They can easily cause programs not to work correctly. As long as you aren't installing crap off the Internet all the time there really is no need to fix the registry IMO.



    if it's piriforms ccleaner, then it's really safe and goes after the obvious things like orphaned entries but leaves hidden / zero byte files well alone (that some programs might use)
     
    you more than likely will find it's a false positive, have you submitted it (does it give u the option ? ) or contacted fxpansion also ?
     
    because it's niche and you only just found it, places like kvr etc are better than google. not everyone runs the combo of them 2 things :)
     
     
     
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