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Oh the time wasted.....
I just spent an hour or so creating a cadence in the PRV because the staff view just is so substandard. It would have been nice if had only taken 10 minutes at the most. Maybe I'll get faster at the PRV as I have a lot more to do. At least for percussion parts it's not to bad. Still to much time consumed though.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/13 17:06:03
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You may wish to try the Step Sequencer next time.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/13 18:48:22
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2013/07/22 10:47:23
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I just spent an hour or so creating a cadence in the PRV because the staff view just is so substandard. It would have been nice if had only taken 10 minutes at the most. Maybe I'll get faster at the PRV as I have a lot more to do. At least for percussion parts it's not to bad. Still to much time consumed though.
Not quite sure if you're asking for help. I've composed 8 symphonies (each one with 800-1000 or more measures) in the staff view and many shorter compositions. Though it does have its imperfections, I don't understand why you're having trouble with it. 1. Are you keybinding notes? (q=quarter, s=sixteenth, w=whole, etc.) 2. Are you knowledgeable enough of music notation to take advantage of it? 3. Are you keybinding tempo, meter/key and controller change dialogue boxes? 4. Are you using multiple docked staff views (locking each view) so that you don't have to continually open the "pick tracks" dialogue box? (this saves a lot of time) The staff views of all DAWS are very similar. Cubase, DP8 for Windows--neither are any faster than Sonar's staff view. There is far more musical detail that can be achieved using the staff view, in contrast to the PRV but knowledge of counterpoint, voice-leading and harmony is required to benefit from it. I find the combination of the staff view and the event list gives me all the options I need to write detailed, contrapuntal music that has dynamics, phrasing, gesture, articulation, etc. Jerry www.jerrygerber.com
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/13 21:09:26
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Jerry, your post makes me smile. I feel like a child looking up at a bird.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/13 21:19:58
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I'm just complaining. I can do all that too. I'm very proficient at notation. I had to use the PRV view because I could not get certain rudiments to play. The problem is I never use the PRV so I have to figure it out every time I use it. If the staff view went deeper than 32nd notes by subdividing twice more and display correctly, I could have done it in the SV. Remember, I said cadence. Since there are many types of cadences, I should have specified a marching snare cadence. Nothing plagal about that. ;-)
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/14 00:39:11
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The staff views of all DAWS are very similar. Cubase, DP8 for Windows--neither are any faster than Sonar's staff view. There is far more musical detail that can be achieved using the staff view, in contrast to the PRV but knowledge of counterpoint, voice-leading and harmony is required to benefit from it. I find the combination of the staff view and the event list gives me all the options I need to write detailed, contrapuntal music that has dynamics, phrasing, gesture, articulation, etc.
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With all due respect you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. After many years with Sonar and 3 months working with Cubase 7, I can tell you that Cubase's notation facilities are in no way similar to Sonar X2. Sonar's notation facilities are one step above Band-in-a-Box notation whereas Cubase's is closer to Sibelius, which I own. Cubase notation is far better than Notion 4 which I also own. In more than one way Cubase notation is faster and easier then Sibelius. To say that all DAW notation is similar, especially when you are comparing to Sonar, is simply misinformation. I will not take the time to explain the features of Cubase because you can download a demo and see for yourself if interested. I applaud your ability to compose symphonies in Sonar. A house can be built without power tools but I certainly wouldn't do it that way. To imply that hand tools are as good a way to build a house as power tools is ridiculous. If you use notation Sonar is, in fact, the wrong tool for the job.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/14 14:41:19
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I'm just complaining. I can do all that too. I'm very proficient at notation. I had to use the PRV view because I could not get certain rudiments to play. The problem is I never use the PRV so I have to figure it out every time I use it. If the staff view went deeper than 32nd notes by subdividing twice more and display correctly, I could have done it in the SV. Remember, I said cadence. Since there are many types of cadences, I should have specified a marching snare cadence. Nothing plagal about that. ;-)
Why would cadences be any different (in terms of using the staff view) than any other musical phrase or device? Though the staff view does not display 64th notes correctly, it plays them back correctly and accurately, as Sonar does the tied and dotted triplets. I would still rather look at incorrect notation in those few instances knowing playback is right than look at the PRV view, which, I would think, most trained composers who read and write music find not only useless but horribly imprecise. Of course the ideal would be for CW for fix the staff view's display, which I have no real expectations of happening. JG www.jerrygerber.com
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/14 15:59:29
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...the PRV view, which, I would think, most trained composers who read and write music find not only useless but horribly imprecise...
PRV imprecise? Please explain.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/14 16:40:47
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...the PRV view, which, I would think, most trained composers who read and write music find not only useless but horribly imprecise...
PRV imprecise? Please explain.
Perhaps "precise" is the wrong term. Try writing a 3-voice fugue if you know how, or any piece with intricate, or not so intricate, counterpoint and you'll quickly realize two things: 1) why notation has been around for around 1000 years, and 2) why the PRV roll can't compete with notation in terms of creating, developing and and employing variation in composition. For simple dance music or any kind of music that is very repetitious and rhythmically conservative, I imagine some people thing the PRV is the best thing to happen to DAWs. JG www.jerrygerber.com
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/14 17:18:50
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i was about to say the same thing as kev but just left it, i do however think the prv is a great composition tool.
with its only real limitations in my situations is not being able to produce chords on a 1 click basis.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/14 18:15:45
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The staff views of all DAWS are very similar. Cubase, DP8 for Windows--neither are any faster than Sonar's staff view. There is far more musical detail that can be achieved using the staff view, in contrast to the PRV but knowledge of counterpoint, voice-leading and harmony is required to benefit from it. I find the combination of the staff view and the event list gives me all the options I need to write detailed, contrapuntal music that has dynamics, phrasing, gesture, articulation, etc.
Jerry
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With all due respect you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. After many years with Sonar and 3 months working with Cubase 7, I can tell you that Cubase's notation facilities are in no way similar to Sonar X2. Sonar's notation facilities are one step above Band-in-a-Box notation whereas Cubase's is closer to Sibelius, which I own. Cubase notation is far better than Notion 4 which I also own. In more than one way Cubase notation is faster and easier then Sibelius. To say that all DAW notation is similar, especially when you are comparing to Sonar, is simply misinformation. I will not take the time to explain the features of Cubase because you can download a demo and see for yourself if interested. I applaud your ability to compose symphonies in Sonar. A house can be built without power tools but I certainly wouldn't do it that way. To imply that hand tools are as good a way to build a house as power tools is ridiculous. If you use notation Sonar is, in fact, the wrong tool for the job.
There's absolutely no purpose to preface a sentence "with all due respect" when there's no respect at all in telling someone who probably has far more knowledge than you do about music and music production that they don't know what they're talking about. I have DIRECT EXPERIENCE with both Cubase's and DP's notation editor. I wasn't writing about features, I was referring to ease of use in MIDI sequencing. You're writing like a presumptuous fool who wants to appear superior. Perhaps Sonar is the wrong tool for YOU, but if you have a shred of wisdom or discretion, you'd leave it at that. I've already downloaded a Cubase demo and spent 2 months with it. JG www.jerrygerber.com
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/14 18:27:54
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I guess I started a firestorm. If it'sall perfectly plagal with everyone, why the argument?
@jsg - I don't care one way or the other what experience you have. I'm glad you have it but there is no way to write the cadence I wrote in the SV. You said it yourself, "it won't look right but it will play correctly". (not exact)
It's all rudimentary and goes from one beat to the next. Whether you flam, flat, drag, ruff, drag with a ruff or even fancy a paradiddle, just keep the cadence going and just maybe it will be perfect and not plagal. After all, plagal is not a final as perfect.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/14 19:06:18
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jsg
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The staff views of all DAWS are very similar. Cubase, DP8 for Windows--neither are any faster than Sonar's staff view. There is far more musical detail that can be achieved using the staff view, in contrast to the PRV but knowledge of counterpoint, voice-leading and harmony is required to benefit from it. I find the combination of the staff view and the event list gives me all the options I need to write detailed, contrapuntal music that has dynamics, phrasing, gesture, articulation, etc.
Jerry
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With all due respect you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. After many years with Sonar and 3 months working with Cubase 7, I can tell you that Cubase's notation facilities are in no way similar to Sonar X2. Sonar's notation facilities are one step above Band-in-a-Box notation whereas Cubase's is closer to Sibelius, which I own. Cubase notation is far better than Notion 4 which I also own. In more than one way Cubase notation is faster and easier then Sibelius. To say that all DAW notation is similar, especially when you are comparing to Sonar, is simply misinformation. I will not take the time to explain the features of Cubase because you can download a demo and see for yourself if interested. I applaud your ability to compose symphonies in Sonar. A house can be built without power tools but I certainly wouldn't do it that way. To imply that hand tools are as good a way to build a house as power tools is ridiculous. If you use notation Sonar is, in fact, the wrong tool for the job.
There's absolutely no purpose to preface a sentence "with all due respect" when there's no respect at all in telling someone who probably has far more knowledge than you do about music and music production that they don't know what they're talking about. I have DIRECT EXPERIENCE with both Cubase's and DP's notation editor. I wasn't writing about features, I was referring to ease of use in MIDI sequencing. You're writing like a presumptuous fool who wants to appear superior. Perhaps Sonar is the wrong tool for YOU, but if you have a shred of wisdom or discretion, you'd leave it at that. I've already downloaded a Cubase demo and spent 2 months with it.
JG
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In the same paragraph that you call me a "presumptuous fool who wants to appear superior" you claim to have "far more knowledge than you do about music and music production". You are entitled to think I am fool but your statement that you have more knowledge than me is not knowable by you and gives me a clearer indication of the type or person I am dealing with. Your statement that "the staff views of all DAWS are very similar" is patently incorrect as is the paragraph that follows. If you "have a shred of wisdom or discretion" you will stop spreading inaccuracies and skewed personal opinions as if they were facts. In virtually all of your posts you make a point of lecturing everyone about how they must not know anything about counterpoint, voice-leading and harmony. News flash: you are not the only one who has studied music theory. Many of us have. You could, however, benefit by better understanding your tools instead or being dogmatic about them.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/14 22:37:22
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jsg
The staff views of all DAWS are very similar. Cubase, DP8 for Windows--neither are any faster than Sonar's staff view. There is far more musical detail that can be achieved using the staff view, in contrast to the PRV but knowledge of counterpoint, voice-leading and harmony is required to benefit from it. I find the combination of the staff view and the event list gives me all the options I need to write detailed, contrapuntal music that has dynamics, phrasing, gesture, articulation, etc.
Jerry
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With all due respect you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. After many years with Sonar and 3 months working with Cubase 7, I can tell you that Cubase's notation facilities are in no way similar to Sonar X2. Sonar's notation facilities are one step above Band-in-a-Box notation whereas Cubase's is closer to Sibelius, which I own. Cubase notation is far better than Notion 4 which I also own. In more than one way Cubase notation is faster and easier then Sibelius. To say that all DAW notation is similar, especially when you are comparing to Sonar, is simply misinformation. I will not take the time to explain the features of Cubase because you can download a demo and see for yourself if interested. I applaud your ability to compose symphonies in Sonar. A house can be built without power tools but I certainly wouldn't do it that way. To imply that hand tools are as good a way to build a house as power tools is ridiculous. If you use notation Sonar is, in fact, the wrong tool for the job.
There's absolutely no purpose to preface a sentence "with all due respect" when there's no respect at all in telling someone who probably has far more knowledge than you do about music and music production that they don't know what they're talking about. I have DIRECT EXPERIENCE with both Cubase's and DP's notation editor. I wasn't writing about features, I was referring to ease of use in MIDI sequencing. You're writing like a presumptuous fool who wants to appear superior. Perhaps Sonar is the wrong tool for YOU, but if you have a shred of wisdom or discretion, you'd leave it at that. I've already downloaded a Cubase demo and spent 2 months with it.
JG
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In the same paragraph that you call me a "presumptuous fool who wants to appear superior" you claim to have "far more knowledge than you do about music and music production". You are entitled to think I am fool but your statement that you have more knowledge than me is not knowable by you and gives me a clearer indication of the type or person I am dealing with. Your statement that "the staff views of all DAWS are very similar" is patently incorrect as is the paragraph that follows. If you "have a shred of wisdom or discretion" you will stop spreading inaccuracies and skewed personal opinions as if they were facts. In virtually all of your posts you make a point of lecturing everyone about how they must not know anything about counterpoint, voice-leading and harmony. News flash: you are not the only one who has studied music theory. Many of us have. You could, however, benefit by better understanding your tools instead or being dogmatic about them.
vintagevibe
jsg
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jsg
The staff views of all DAWS are very similar. Cubase, DP8 for Windows--neither are any faster than Sonar's staff view. There is far more musical detail that can be achieved using the staff view, in contrast to the PRV but knowledge of counterpoint, voice-leading and harmony is required to benefit from it. I find the combination of the staff view and the event list gives me all the options I need to write detailed, contrapuntal music that has dynamics, phrasing, gesture, articulation, etc.
Jerry
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With all due respect you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. After many years with Sonar and 3 months working with Cubase 7, I can tell you that Cubase's notation facilities are in no way similar to Sonar X2. Sonar's notation facilities are one step above Band-in-a-Box notation whereas Cubase's is closer to Sibelius, which I own. Cubase notation is far better than Notion 4 which I also own. In more than one way Cubase notation is faster and easier then Sibelius. To say that all DAW notation is similar, especially when you are comparing to Sonar, is simply misinformation. I will not take the time to explain the features of Cubase because you can download a demo and see for yourself if interested. I applaud your ability to compose symphonies in Sonar. A house can be built without power tools but I certainly wouldn't do it that way. To imply that hand tools are as good a way to build a house as power tools is ridiculous. If you use notation Sonar is, in fact, the wrong tool for the job.
There's absolutely no purpose to preface a sentence "with all due respect" when there's no respect at all in telling someone who probably has far more knowledge than you do about music and music production that they don't know what they're talking about. I have DIRECT EXPERIENCE with both Cubase's and DP's notation editor. I wasn't writing about features, I was referring to ease of use in MIDI sequencing. You're writing like a presumptuous fool who wants to appear superior. Perhaps Sonar is the wrong tool for YOU, but if you have a shred of wisdom or discretion, you'd leave it at that. I've already downloaded a Cubase demo and spent 2 months with it.
JG
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In the same paragraph that you call me a "presumptuous fool who wants to appear superior" you claim to have "far more knowledge than you do about music and music production". You are entitled to think I am fool but your statement that you have more knowledge than me is not knowable by you and gives me a clearer indication of the type or person I am dealing with. Your statement that "the staff views of all DAWS are very similar" is patently incorrect as is the paragraph that follows. If you "have a shred of wisdom or discretion" you will stop spreading inaccuracies and skewed personal opinions as if they were facts. In virtually all of your posts you make a point of lecturing everyone about how they must not know anything about counterpoint, voice-leading and harmony. News flash: you are not the only one who has studied music theory. Many of us have. You could, however, benefit by better understanding your tools instead or being dogmatic about them.
Dogmatic? I'm not the one who sounds like a fanboy, but you do. You're an idiot. Don't engage me, I'll ignore you as conversing with you is a waste of time. I stand by my statement about DAWs and notation and, apparently other composers do too: http://www.stephenbarr.co...ere-is-the-holy-grail/
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/14 23:05:17
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@jsg - Please don't comment anything in my threads again. Personally, I don't believe you. I tried to lighten the mood with jokes that one who knows the components of music theory would understand. They seem to be lost on everyone.
la-di-da... Time to work on some my project some more.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/14 23:45:38
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Guitarpima
@jsg - Please don't comment anything in my threads again. Personally, I don't believe you. I tried to lighten the mood with jokes that one who knows the components of music theory would understand. They seem to be lost on everyone.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/15 02:59:13
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jsg
For simple dance music or any kind of music that is very repetitious and rhythmically conservative, I imagine some people thing the PRV is the best thing to happen to DAWs. I'm not sure sure about that. PRV is the better tool when dealing with notes that start or stop not exactly on the beat. For example a piano chord always consists of notes that don't hit exactly together and each have different velocity values. PRV is essential for editing this sort of thing. On the other hand, simple patterns can be entered equally easily in SV or PRV.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/15 12:41:27
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^^^^^^^^ I can read and write notation, but I wouldn't to input a track in the SV that's either "ahead" or "behind" the beat, not to mention notes that need a variety of start times and durations that simply don't fall on standard musical boundaries. I find this fairly common with string parts in order to work the attack portion in. That said, I'd really like to use the SV more than I do, but it's just not that comfortable for me. So in the interim I'll keep using the PRV which works just fine for most of what I do... and look forward to the day when the SV is a friendlier face. 
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/15 13:17:19
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One thing I love about Cubase is that there are many facilities to make the notation look correct without altering the underlying MIDI data. So I can do anything I want in the PRV but still edit in correct looking notation without destroying the feel.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/15 14:29:44
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One thing I'm glad about....I'm glad I don't have to construct much to where I would see what you guys see. That would drive me nuts! Thankfully, I play drums so my V-Drums or real drum kit gets me through the whole notation part. It's easy enough for me to fix if I screw up either by fixing a note or quantizing.
Robert, have you ever thought of getting a little drum controller? Something like maybe a pad you can hit with sticks or even that Korg nano thing? As a person that just knows basic music theory, I would be so lost doing things like some of you. My worst case scenario is I play something on piano until I get it right. Sometimes quantizing it makes it worse for me, so I just keep punching something in until it's right. Time consuming and probably the long way around for me, but it does work. This way I really don't have to worry about how bad PRV or notation is. I mean don't get me wrong, I've step written plenty of things and in Sonar, I've never really had a problem. But again...in a sense, because I play something physically, it takes a lot of the stuff those that program/step write may see, out of my work flow.
Like, sometimes I don't even feel like going behind the V-Drums or moving over to my keyboard. So I use this little Bomes Virtual keyboard to type my drums in or my piano or string parts. As long as I'm not totally out of sync, I don't mind leaving things a little loose to where they don't sound too robotic. With the hybrid method of playing and then maybe fixing a few things here and there that need fixing, it makes it a more pleasant experience for me.
For example, Robert...if I was playing the cadence thing on one of my drums or whatever, I'd not even look at what it looks like. I'd be listening for what it sounds like and if something didn't sound right, I'd zoom in on the midi notes to see which one(s) may be making the thing sound wrong. Most times, it's a note or 2 for me that needs to be fixed and I just move on. The other cool thing here is, when I play things in real time, if they aren't too involved, I can set the auto-quantizer to on and it fixes things as I record.
I know none of what I said here may be helpful, but it works for me being I am almost completely clueless about theory as you know. If it can work for a dope like me, maybe there is a way you could try some of the stuff I do and see if it makes things any easier for you? Good luck bro. :)
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
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Some composers like to visualise the music and write it down that way. Others like to play their instruments and improvise. Both are valid starting points for composition. It depends on how the final music is going to be created. Either from a live orchestra or a bunch of virtual and real instruments. What I find interesting is how a composer can work in a mode where they are only creating the music using notation. If you work only with notation you are putting the music in the most quantised way possible and you have a big job to add the feel in later. Recording an orchestra reading a well written part adds the feel in big time and quickly in one pass. If you are converting notation over to great sounding midi tracks then you have some work to do. What happened to being able to play the parts in live. Most great composers could play live the parts they were writing. If you can see the music you are writing and also be able to play the music there ends up being a deeper connection. For me as a drummer and keyboard player it is all about playing the stuff in live during the tracking process. It is very quick this way too. You can slow the midi tracks down to make it easier. The feel is created in the first instance. The midi data can be so easily edited. Parts of the data can be easily quantised if you want or other sections just left alone or tightened up or loosened up to suit the music. Slipping tracks (advancing) the tracks is also a good way to keep everything on time too. Using your ears. I find it is easier to start with the live playing, quantise to suit and then look at the notation. It usually looks very accurate to me. You can adjust it to suit in places of the chart. Danny the Bome Mouse keyboard software looks cool and quite interesting. I see how it could be used. I am not a big fan of that sort of control usually as I tend to prefer the keyboard itself as the better option for me. The drum pads on the M Audio Axiom 61 are handy for any velocity type data going in. Bit like the Akai MPC. If you play drums the Roland Octapad is an amazing device for inputting data too. Another method I use for composing music is to play drums and sing or vocalise the musical ideas all live to a click. I have got headphones with a mic attached close to my mouth. I record the vocal mic onto a track as well as the drum parts. With care the drums can be recorded and not pick up the vocalisations I am doing. It is very fast way to capture/notate a melody and record some live drum tracks. Sounds weird but it can really work for me as another way to capture ideas.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/15 16:21:19
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Guitarpima
@jsg - Please don't comment anything in my threads again. Personally, I don't believe you. I tried to lighten the mood with jokes that one who knows the components of music theory would understand. They seem to be lost on everyone.
la-di-da... Time to work on some my project some more.
You bet I won't. I tried to help you with my first post. I don't give a rat's ass if you believe me or not. I have a busy, professional musical life outside of this forum and the last thing I need is to spend too much time here. That's why in over 13 years I have fewer than 500 posts.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/15 20:48:25
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Yes yes jsg. I figured all that out. Your so smart and we're all so incapable.
I don't know why all this started? All I was doing was a little venting because I had to figure the PRV out, again, and do the trial and error writing to get it to sound right. I have looked at the drum pad so I could do this but for the most part, I could write out anything I wanted to do. I've also looked at the V-drums, or the like, as well. Since I'm a low budget, it's trial and error.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/20 12:11:31
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Guitarpima
@jsg - Please don't comment anything in my threads again. Personally, I don't believe you. I tried to lighten the mood with jokes that one who knows the components of music theory would understand. They seem to be lost on everyone.
la-di-da... Time to work on some my project some more.
I wish this forum had an ignore list.
you can block people, problem is sometimes they have helpful things to share. ive only blocked one person here on the forums, but a little to late ...lol (just yesterday) its tough to ignore anyone, but remember there are those on this forum who hunt for your posts just looking to mess with you. like they get a kick out of it. (stalkers) but as ive learned a little to late again, its an open forum and anyone can say what ever it is they want. so im my case ive got no one to blame but myself. if im not blocking them.. :)
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/20 16:48:03
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Come on, chuckle.. I've been pretty good since the tuning thread. I've not crowed, or commented on the fact that you were still deliberately misquoting my name, even in your apology.
Think, if you had blocked me earlier, you'd still be tuning your guitars flat/sharp. It's not me that made you look a fool.
Grow up chuck, and loose the persecution complex.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/20 17:29:19
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Enough already. Everyone says things they wish they could take back. That's part of life. I'm sure jsg was just trying to help but I did not need it and he kept going "I did this, I did that" which is off putting.
Charlie and I had a brief bout but all is fine as it's no use hanging on to stuff better left in the past. Nobody is perfect. Least of all, me.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/20 17:50:49
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That's why in over 13 years I have fewer than 500 posts.
 
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/20 19:42:54
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Enough already. Everyone says things they wish they could take back. That's part of life. I'm sure jsg was just trying to help but I did not need it and he kept going "I did this, I did that" which is off putting.
Charlie and I had a brief bout but all is fine as it's no use hanging on to stuff better left in the past. Nobody is perfect. Least of all, me.
well said man, we can only control our own actions and take responsibility for our own choices. it's a little too much having to worry about anyone else :) just take the good of this forum like I do and enjoy it. there is a lot of good people here. most important, there's a lot of cool things to learn from the people here. I appreciate the words man. and like I said "there are those on this forum who hunt for your posts just looking to mess with you." (as you can see) but I just realized blocking them works pretty good, because even though you can see they have made a post, you cant actually see what they have posted. this way you don't even need to bother :) good luck
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/22 02:08:41
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Come on, chuckle.. I've been pretty good since the tuning thread. I've not crowed, or commented on the fact that you were still deliberately misquoting my name, even in your apology.
Think, if you had blocked me earlier, you'd still be tuning your guitars flat/sharp. It's not me that made you look a fool.
Grow up chuck, and loose the persecution complex.
I suppose I had this coming to me, your right. I probably do need to grow up a little, well maybe even more than a little, a lot. I mean im a grown man. I should be learning rather than trying to argue my points. im sorry jb, not just for that thread about tuning, which I should thank you for. but i was a fool to come here and comment on this thread, so I deserve the grow up thing. yes I do. truth is im having a difficult time blocking you, because your a smart person and have a lot to offer, things I can learn. so how can I be that ignorant to push away good advise even if your not giving me that advise ? I cant. even at the times you seemed irritating, I still thought you were being somewhat logical, and comical at times, which is basically how I am as well. what im trying to say is, you and I may not be to far off from being a lot like each other believe it or not. I probably should have wrote this on the other thread when I was wrong but the wounds were a little fresh and I was ashamed of my ignorance to knowledge, something I try to strive for. so I probably should have just said it then. I am sorry. in the future, if you don't agree with me, that's okay, if you think what im saying is ridicules, that's okay too, because at times, it is..lol hope you accept my apology.
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Re: Oh the time wasted.....
2013/07/22 22:11:26
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Yes yes jsg. I figured all that out. Your so smart and we're all so incapable.
I don't know why all this started? All I was doing was a little venting because I had to figure the PRV out, again, and do the trial and error writing to get it to sound right. I have looked at the drum pad so I could do this but for the most part, I could write out anything I wanted to do. I've also looked at the V-drums, or the like, as well. Since I'm a low budget, it's trial and error.
Hey!!! We're splintering the Staff View contingent. Cut it out.
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