Not Finding my VST Plug Ins...

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2013/07/14 10:38:38 (permalink)

Not Finding my VST Plug Ins...

Hi guys.
 
I used to use Home Studio 7XL on an old computer.
I then upgraded to a new machine.
I installed Sonar X2 Producer on the new machine.
I installed all of my synths.
I pointed Sonar X2 in the direction of the synths and it found them - all fine.
I then realised Sonar X2 is RIDDLED with bugs and after 3 months of hell, decided to install Home Studio 7XL on my new machine, just so I can use something more stable.
I am attempting to point Home Studio in the direction of the synths but it won't find a SINGLE one. Only the stuff that is already installed with Home Studio.
I am using the EXACT process as usual. (I can describe this process if need be, but it worked all the other times on both my old machine and with Sonar X2 on my current new machine).
 
I am wondering if it may be a problem with my new machine having Windows 7 64 Bit?
I'm stuck.
Any help would be much appreciated.
 
Dave
 
 
 

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    Daylaa
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    Re: Not Finding my VST Plug Ins... 2013/07/14 12:03:54 (permalink)
    To be more specific, it won't find Predator, Z3ta2, and Melodyne. Those are the things I've purchased separately. I can easily find the dll locations but it's just not adding them to the list once I've scanned the location.

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    Re: Not Finding my VST Plug Ins... 2013/07/14 17:19:15 (permalink)
    Sonar x2 finds them; home studio doesn't. Anyone?

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    Re: Not Finding my VST Plug Ins... 2013/07/15 01:55:49 (permalink)
    If your old machine was 32 bit, the VSTs are in a folder of different name in your 64 bit machine.
    In a 64 bit system 32 bit plugins are (or should be) in a folder with addition "x86". Could that have something to do with the problem?

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    Re: Not Finding my VST Plug Ins... 2013/07/15 02:27:15 (permalink)
    Hi Thanks, I've tried moving all Predator files to the x86 folder but that still doesn't find it...

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    Re: Not Finding my VST Plug Ins... 2013/07/15 02:40:21 (permalink)
    Could it be that I have installed 64 bit versions of the programs on my new machine and home studio doesn't recognise them? ?

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    Re: Not Finding my VST Plug Ins... 2013/07/15 02:49:45 (permalink)
    32bit hosts will not see 64bit plug-ins unless you use jBridge. Better to install the 32bit versions of the plug-ins.
    post edited by scook - 2013/07/15 02:52:12
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    Re: Not Finding my VST Plug Ins... 2013/07/15 07:06:08 (permalink)
    Would that involve un installing the current versions?

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    Re: Not Finding my VST Plug Ins... 2013/07/15 09:45:20 (permalink)
    No, it should be OK to have both versions installed. If given the option, install the VST portion of the plug-ins in different directories, one for 32bit (ex. "C:\Program Files (x86)\Cakewalk\Vstplugins") and another for 64bit (ex. "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Vstplugins").
    post edited by scook - 2013/07/15 13:30:43
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    Re: Not Finding my VST Plug Ins... 2013/07/15 13:24:20 (permalink)
    Thanks scook I'll give it a shot

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    Re: Not Finding my VST Plug Ins... 2013/07/19 12:27:36 (permalink)
    Did that work?  I am currently mid-stride moving onto a Windows 7 64-bit system and really pulling my hair out.  I even considered upgrading to X2 but your comments and others scared me off.  
     
    Does using 32-bit plug-ins 'dumb-down' the host to 32-bits? 
     
    BTW, I am listening to Green Lights on Soundcloud as I write this -- awesome stuff, radio ready. 

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    Re: Not Finding my VST Plug Ins... 2013/07/19 12:50:58 (permalink)
    cwestmont
     
    Does using 32-bit plug-ins 'dumb-down' the host to 32-bits? 
     

    No, using 32bit plug-ins does not affect the operation of a 64bit host or 64bit plug-ins. You can still encounter some compatibility issues with 32bit plug-ins. Sometimes changing the bridge software to jBridge helps. Sometimes the only recourse is to avoid using the plug-in in a 64bit host.
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    Re: Not Finding my VST Plug Ins... 2013/07/23 08:29:01 (permalink)
    Hey glad you like that song! Alas, that was the last project I made. My sonar issues have prevented me from making any progress. HOWEVER, with home studio 7 installed again it is working SOLID as a rock. I'm really happy and currently have a new song on the go. I'm gonna forget sonar x2 until they update it. If ever.
    As for the 32 bit issue I just installed the 32 bit versions of melodyne and predator into my program files x86 folder and asked hs7 to look for them there. No problems at all.
    My advice would be to NOT upgrade to sonar x2. It could be great but it's a real gamble at the moment. Works for some, but not for others. It has been completely un usable for me. Vote 'stability' for now.

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