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Improvements, not bugs
Some thoughts:
Pentagon should be fixed- I think Cakewalk should go through the presets and eliminate the valleys issue. I love the sounds but you can't hardly use it anymore for it hanging up or frying your ears when you are searching through it. RCG made some great sounds.
Colors again
Colors in the matrix for sure, heck anything to make the Matrix keep me from slaving Ableton- I really want to just stay within Sonar composition through live performance
When I click on a clip to get into its piano roll I always have to fiddle with the sizing and focus- can it just put the notes in a preferenced zoom/focus of our choice and centered?
The shaped (slider?) at the top of the vertical now time covers up the measure number or beat, sometimes I gotta move it out of the way to see where I am
I can't delete empty midi rows from the matrix that are not needed
Z3TA 2 presets should have a standard volume- sure they sound great way up, but dangerous to cycle through and listen as you'll get blasted
Ara
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/22 12:37:57
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☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2013/07/26 13:08:53
ara
Some thoughts:
Pentagon should be fixed- I think Cakewalk should go through the presets and eliminate the valleys issue. I love the sounds but you can't hardly use it anymore for it hanging up or frying your ears when you are searching through it. RCG made some great sounds.
Colors again
Colors in the matrix for sure, heck anything to make the Matrix keep me from slaving Ableton- I really want to just stay within Sonar composition through live performance
When I click on a clip to get into its piano roll I always have to fiddle with the sizing and focus- can it just put the notes in a preferenced zoom/focus of our choice and centered?
The shaped (slider?) at the top of the vertical now time covers up the measure number or beat, sometimes I gotta move it out of the way to see where I am
I can't delete empty midi rows from the matrix that are not needed
Z3TA 2 presets should have a standard volume- sure they sound great way up, but dangerous to cycle through and listen as you'll get blasted
Ara
Perhaps if you submitted some feature requests for some of the above - who knows? They get their list of stuff to do from somewhere. Bob Bone
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/22 14:10:59
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Re: the differing volume of synth presets: whenever I'm auditioning patches, I always stick a limiter on whatever bus is being used for preset audition.
You're in more danger of frying your monitors than you are your ears - both of which are extremely valuable of course
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/25 23:03:14
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For Pentagon, I just went through the presets, unselected the valleys simulator and resaved them. Didn't take that long.
I'll probably do the same for Z3ta's presets once I get around to it.
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/25 23:56:26
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I agree w/ the piano roll issue.
Also, I've been thinking this for a long while now, but after checking out Logic's new Drummer program I really think they should make some improvements to Session Drummer to make it a bit more flexible and intuitive. Things like control over room and overhead. A more intuitive way to work w/ and audition grooves. Stuff like that. I feel like it's a good tool that isn't being used to it's full potential. Make it competitive rather than just an entry level tool to make due until you can afford more flexible alternatives like BFD, Superior, Addictive, etc.
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/26 12:52:58
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Why would a PC user want to check out Logic's drummer? Does a Mac come with the trial?
One could get BFD2 and be done with it.
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/26 14:49:40
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The Pentagon "Valleys" issue, while annoying hardly makes it unusable. once you are aware of the issue its not really a problem, its a legacy plugin and I would rather have it despite a few bugs than see it dropped. I would rather see development effort go elsewhere.
Inconsistent volumes are hardly limited to Cakewalk VSTi - what Jonesy said on this one.
Session Drummer, well any thing can be improved, and I expect Cakewalk look at what the competition are doing and making business decisions accordingly. I use Superior Drummer, BFD Eco and Steven Slate 4 but SD3 seems pretty reasonable for a bundled application.
I can't comment on the Matrix, its a feature I do not use, however I do get the impression its a feature that could be improved. Personally I would prefer to see development effort go elsewhere, but that is just my view point.
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/26 18:42:31
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I concur that I don't want them spending a second on a legacy plugin for an issue that is easily fixed by user. I do think they should throw out the occasional reminder to users like a readme on install that some instruments have these issues.
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/27 03:57:16
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John
Why would a PC user want to check out Logic's drummer? Does a Mac come with the trial?
One could get BFD2 and be done with it.
I don't even know where to begin with this. Very short sighted.
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/27 12:23:49
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A better question would be: HOW would a PC user check out Logic's drummer? Does a Mac come with the trial?
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/27 12:43:46
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/27 13:46:29
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bladetragic
John
Why would a PC user want to check out Logic's drummer? Does a Mac come with the trial?
One could get BFD2 and be done with it.
I don't even know where to begin with this. Very short sighted.
Whats short sighted about it?
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/31 18:50:13
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edit: Duplicate post
post edited by bladetragic - 2013/07/31 18:59:10
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/31 18:50:19
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John
bladetragic
John
Why would a PC user want to check out Logic's drummer? Does a Mac come with the trial?
One could get BFD2 and be done with it.
I don't even know where to begin with this. Very short sighted.
Whats short sighted about it?
Well for one, you are making the assumption that b/c I'm primarily a PC user that I don't have access to a Mac. How come I can't have both??? Is that impossible??? I know several people who have both. I use Sonar b/c it's what I started on and I'm comfortable with it, not b/c I don't have a Mac. Which is why I keep my eye on what's going on on that side as well. Even more so recently, b/c like a lot of others, I'm uncertain and a bit nervous about the direction Cakewalk is headed. There are videos out demonstrating various features of Logic's Drummer. Some of which I like and definitely wouldn't mind seeing Session Drummer incorporate. Honestly I don't even really use Session Drummer that much, I'm just speaking from a standpoint of wanting to see Sonar be the best possible product it can be for everyone. Not just myself. Just b/c you like a program doesn't mean there is not room for improvement. And I'm not sure why you wouldn't keep an eye on the competition and the latest developments in the industry. How else would you know if you are using a product that is current and up to speed. I always check out what other companies are doing. Doesn't necessarily mean that I think they are better.
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/31 19:05:55
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Perhaps there should be a forum that is host neutral. This is for a Windows based program that is found most often on PCs. The other thing is why promote another DAW anyway? As far as I am concerned we have seen way too much of that recently. Also as stated I said why a PC user. If you have both, fine, that is your problem. But I was addressing the PC user. To me advocating and promoting for a competing DAW is bad form here.
There are alternatives to changing DAWs as well as platform to get a high quality drum synth.
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Re: Improvements, not bugs
2013/07/31 19:06:06
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Perhaps there should be a forum that is host neutral. This is for a Windows based program that is found most often on PCs. The other thing is why promote another DAW anyway? As far as I am concerned we have seen way too much of that recently. Also as stated I said why a PC user. If you have both, fine, that is your problem. But I was addressing the PC user. To me advocating and promoting for a competing DAW is bad form here.
There are alternatives to changing DAWs as well as platform to get a high quality drum synth.
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