joey90405
Max Output Level: -84 dBFS
- Total Posts : 324
- Joined: 2013/05/30 14:53:46
- Location: chicago
- Status: offline
final mix down
hi everyone, I need some help with this. ok, this is what I've got. 2 guitar tracks going to a bus with compression, 2 vocal tracks going to a bus with compression, one bass track, EZDrummer 8 tracks going to a bus with effects on each drum then in the bus I have Pro Channel with a pre set. my question is this, I want to mix down to a MP3. do I select ALL the tracks or just select JUST the bus's?? i'm sorry for being dense.
OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home Version 10.0.10240 Build 10240 OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Manufacturer HP System Model HP ENVY m7 Notebook System Type x64-based PC System SKU M1W07UA#ABA Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5500U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2401 Mhz, 2 Core(s), Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB Total Physical Memory 15.9 GB Available Physical Memory 12.8 GB Total Virtual Memory 18.3 GB Available Virtual Memory 15.3 GB
|
SteveStrummerUK
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 31112
- Joined: 2006/10/28 10:53:48
- Location: Worcester, England.
- Status: offline
Re: final mix down
2013/07/22 21:59:53
(permalink)
Hi Joey
First off, make sure that all your instrument/vocal busses (and any tracks that aren't being sent to a bus) are sent to a single 'master' bus; this bus should be set as the only bus (or track) outputting to your soundcard.
Next, click on an empty spot in the Track View and hit Ctrl+A to select everything in your project.
In the File > Export > Audio options window, select mp3 as the File Type, and Entire Mix from the Source Category options.
If you select Busses as the Source Category, SONAR will create a separate audio file from the output of each and every bus. Which is not what you're after by the sound of it.
|
konradh
Max Output Level: -42 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3325
- Joined: 2006/01/16 16:07:06
- Status: offline
Re: final mix down
2013/07/22 22:50:55
(permalink)
Steve is correct. What I personally do:
1. Mute any tracks I don't want in the mix
2. Got to Edit | Select | All
3. Then I put the cursor where I want the mix to start (to get rid of blank measures) and go to Edit | Select | From = Now. (Similar procedure for the end if you have blank measures on the end.)
4. Then in Export, I check Include Live Input so everything I hear will go to the mix.
Konrad Current album and more: http://www.themightykonrad.com/ Sonar X1d Producer. V-Studio 700. PC: Intel i7 CPU 3.07GHz, 12 GB RAM. Win 7 64-bit. RealGuitar, RealStrat, RealLPC, Ivory II, Vienna Symphonic, Hollywood Strings, Electr6ity, Acoustic Legends, FabFour, Scarbee Rick/J-Bass/P-Bass, Kontakt 5. NI Session Guitar. Boldersounds, Noisefirm. EZ Drummer 2. EZ Mix. Melodyne Assist. Guitar Rig 4. Tyros 2, JV-1080, Kurzweil PC2R, TC Helicon VoiceWorks+. Rode NT2a, EV RE20. Presonus Eureka. Rokit 6s.
|
robert_e_bone
Moderator
- Total Posts : 8968
- Joined: 2007/12/26 22:09:28
- Location: Palatine, IL
- Status: offline
Re: final mix down
2013/07/23 03:08:35
(permalink)
Yup - the above posts nail it.
Bob Bone
Wisdom is a giant accumulation of "DOH!" Sonar: Platinum (x64), X3 (x64) Audio Interfaces: AudioBox 1818VSL, Steinberg UR-22 Computers: 1) i7-2600 k, 32 GB RAM, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 & 2) AMD A-10 7850 32 GB RAM Windows 10 Pro x64 Soft Synths: NI Komplete 8 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, many others MIDI Controllers: M-Audio Axiom Pro 61, Keystation 88es Settings: 24-Bit, Sample Rate 48k, ASIO Buffer Size 128, Total Round Trip Latency 9.7 ms
|
joey90405
Max Output Level: -84 dBFS
- Total Posts : 324
- Joined: 2013/05/30 14:53:46
- Location: chicago
- Status: offline
Re: final mix down
2013/07/23 13:05:06
(permalink)
thank you all very much. I really appreciate your help.
OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home Version 10.0.10240 Build 10240 OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Manufacturer HP System Model HP ENVY m7 Notebook System Type x64-based PC System SKU M1W07UA#ABA Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5500U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2401 Mhz, 2 Core(s), Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB Total Physical Memory 15.9 GB Available Physical Memory 12.8 GB Total Virtual Memory 18.3 GB Available Virtual Memory 15.3 GB
|
MorganT
Max Output Level: -85 dBFS
- Total Posts : 252
- Joined: 2011/03/17 11:33:16
- Status: offline
Re: final mix down
2013/07/23 16:14:08
(permalink)
Make sure you click in the Tracks pane before Edit |Select| All. If you're in the buses pane when you go to export Audio you'll get a No Audio Selected error. (Yes, that's the voice of experience from doing that repeatedly.)
________________________ Sonar Platinum / Sweetwater Creation Station i5 @ 3.33 Ghz / 12 GB RAM / 64-bit / Fosusrite Scarlett 18i8 interface
|
grpere1
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5
- Joined: 2012/05/09 21:15:03
- Status: offline
Re: final mix down
2013/07/25 12:55:30
(permalink)
I usually ensure that i have at least one measure of silence before the song begins because sonar tends to have some weird audio sound placed in the beginning of the final mixdown. Then i import the mixdown into soundforge and delete the one measure. If your sonar doesn't have the issue mine does then use Konradh's steps.
|
Bristol_Jonesey
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 16775
- Joined: 2007/10/08 15:41:17
- Location: Bristol, UK
- Status: offline
Re: final mix down
2013/07/26 04:38:44
(permalink)
What you're talking about is the data held in the buffers which hasn't been purged properly, usually by not letting a project play/export for it's entire length - including reverb/delay tails and suchlike which might extend for several seconds beyond the notional 'end-point'
You can overcome this by ensuring that the exported range continues until you reach a point of absolute digital silence
I like to extend a clip - any clip - by slip editing it to the right so that when I 'select all' there is NOTHING left in the buffers.
There is also a setting in Preferences which lets you toggle on/off what to do with effects tails.
CbB, Platinum, 64 bit throughoutCustom built i7 3930, 32Gb RAM, 2 x 1Tb Internal HDD, 1 x 1TB system SSD (Win 7), 1 x 500Gb system SSD (Win 10), 2 x 1Tb External HDD's, Dual boot Win 7 & Win 10 64 Bit, Saffire Pro 26, ISA One, Adam P11A,
|
SteveStrummerUK
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 31112
- Joined: 2006/10/28 10:53:48
- Location: Worcester, England.
- Status: offline
Re: final mix down
2013/07/26 06:42:44
(permalink)
Bristol_Jonesey
What you're talking about is the data held in the buffers which hasn't been purged properly, usually by not letting a project play/export for it's entire length - including reverb/delay tails and suchlike which might extend for several seconds beyond the notional 'end-point'
You can overcome this by ensuring that the exported range continues until you reach a point of absolute digital silence
I like to extend a clip - any clip - by slip editing it to the right so that when I 'select all' there is NOTHING left in the buffers.
There is also a setting in Preferences which lets you toggle on/off what to do with effects tails.
+1 to this The usual tell-tale sign is a song that starts with a cymbal crash fading out.
|
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 24398
- Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
- Location: NC
- Status: offline
Re: final mix down
2013/07/26 09:06:41
(permalink)
My habit is to have 2 measures for count in on every project.
To export, I double click on an audio track and it changes color to dark.... double click again and it selects all the tracks.
Now in the export window, I choose WHAT YOU HEAR as the preset. Some of the cake DAW's no longer have this so selecting all the tracks gets the same thing.
Export to a WAVE file. Then use a converter like Wavepad or Audacity to convert it to a high quality MP3. The converter is also an editor (in the case of Wavepad) so it's in the editor where I trim the starting count in clicks and the ending silence.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
|
wizard71
Max Output Level: -74 dBFS
- Total Posts : 836
- Joined: 2012/02/12 05:45:05
- Location: UK
- Status: offline
Re: final mix down
2013/07/26 10:09:17
(permalink)
For no real reason at all I start my projects on bar 4. When I export, I just make sure no clips are selected at all and use the default export options, then import into a wave editor to trim start and end.
http://www.youtube.com/SpaceTimeAceshttps://soundcloud.com/space-time-acesSonar Platinum - Win 8.1 x64 - Haswell 4770k - ASrock Z87 pro3 - 32gb ram - Fractal design R4 case - 3x HDD 1 USB 2.0 external 1x cr M4 ssd for samples - Octa-capture - Sontronics Aria - Sontronics STC-1s - BX8 monitors - ARC 2 system - Kawai CA63 piano - Kawai MP6 Stage piano - Fender custom Telecaster FMT - Yamaha LL6 - Fender P bass
|