Strange linked clips behaviour
Drag 'n' drop copying of linked clips (I've been using step sequencer clips) doesn't work as I'd expect. I've found a very simple way of reproducing the problem and would like to solicit some feedback from the forums before submitting a BUG report to Cakewalk; it may be that I'm not understanding the options and behaviour correctly. I'm also creating this thread as it may help others who are having similar issues.
Setup:
Create a new, normal project.
Insert Session Drummer 3 on a simple instrument track, load a drum kit.
In properties->editing, ensure 'Copy entire linked clips as linked clips' is checked and 'Ask this every time' is unchecked.
Create a basic 4-beat step sequencer pattern: bass drum on 1 & 3, snare on 2 & 4, fill closed hihats every 2.
CTRL-drag the clip to create a new measure to the right of the original.
Both clips should now display '[2]' in their top left corners; they are linked clips.
Unlink the clips using the right-click context menu.
The '[2]' disappears from both clips; they should now be unlinked.
Edit the second pattern, change the hihats to be off-beat rather than on-beat hits.
Open the first pattern and play it, either using the transport or the step sequencer play button.
For me, even though the pattern displayed is clearly the one with the on-beat hihat hits, it's the second pattern which plays.
This doesn't seem right to me.
Delete the second pattern.
If not already displayed, open up the step sequencer for the first pattern.
As before, it's the pattern with the off-beat hihats which is playing, even though the displayed pattern show on-beat hihats.
Delete the first pattern
Go back to preferences->editing, this time uncheck 'Copy entire linked clips as linked clips'.
Re-create the original first pattern in the step sequencer (the one with the on-beat hihat hits).
As before, CTRL-drag the first pattern to create a second measure to the right.
For me, as happened previously, both patterns display '[2]' in their top left corners - they are linked clips even though the editing preferences have been changed to not create linked clips.
Unlink the clips using the right-click context menu.
Edit the second pattern as before so that the hihats are off-beat.
Play both patterns.
This time, the patterns are genuinely unlinked and different.
In summary, there seems to be two issues here:
1. Unlinking step sequencer clips which are linked due to the 'Copy entire linked clips as linked clips' editing preferences, and which have been copied using CTRL-drag does not unlink the clips. In addition, the information which the step sequencer displays for a clip may not correspond to what is actually played.
2. Copying clips using CTRL-drag with the 'Copy entire linked clips as linked clips' editing preferences disabled still creates linked clips. These clips can be properly unlinked, however.
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I've just had a quick look at the above issues when using the piano roll to create and edit the clips, as opposed to the step sequencer. In this case, the behaviour I'm seeing is a little different but is consistent whether the clips are converted to groove clips or not. When the clip is CTRL-drag copied as a linked clip (as configured in the editing preferences), the clips are linked but do not display the '[2]' in their top left corners, so it's hard (if not impossible) to see that the link exists.
However, when the clips are unlinked using the right-click context menu, they are correctly unlinked.
If the clips are copied as unlinked clips, then they are genuinely unlinked after the copy.
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As I mentioned, it may be that I'm not understanding the expected behaviour when CTRL-drag copying step sequencer clips, but I've read the manual pages relating to the step sequencer and haven't found anything that indicates the above behaviour.
I'd be really interested if other people see the same behaviour as myself.
Thanks in advance.
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post edited by ston - 2013/06/30 11:59:50