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August 01, 13 4:47 AM (permalink)

Multidock too grabby

Everytime I issue command 'view piano roll' or doubleclick on a midi track, it opens up already docked ... which means I can't see but an unusable portion of the midi data (like maybe just the velocity section of the window) ... so I have to undock it and spread it out.  Now if I am not overly careful when I'm dragging it about, it gets sucked back into the multidock, and I have to do it again.  Tracks that I am seriously messing with, I work with those in a new screenset, but things I might just be examining or tweaking ... well, it is REALLY annoying.  I mean like it is 4:42 AM here and I should be sleeping but I am obsessing over something I am writing, and oh no, not again, I'm sucked into a war with multidock.  And multidock is winning....
 
Is there any way I can disable or otherwise minimize the area of the screen where multidock tends to suck things into itself?  
 
Is there any way I can 'view piano roll' so it does NOT open up pre-multidocked?

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    Bristol_Jonesey
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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 5:49 AM (permalink)
    You can hold down the shift key when dragging windows to make sure they don't get docked.

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 7:26 AM (permalink)
     
    Hi there
     
    This has caught me out in the past, so much so I don't use the multi-dock for anything these days.
     
    I'm guessing you have the PRV set to 'Floating', hence its readiness to dock when you try to resize it.
     
    All you need to do is Disable Floating and then maximise the PRV.

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 7:33 AM (permalink)
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    You can hold down the shift key when dragging windows to make sure they don't get docked.




     
     
    This feature amuses me... it seems like the behavior is designed to make floating windows seem infuriating so as to justify having to set up a screen set as a solution to a problem that shouldn't be there in the first place.
     
    Bad design.


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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 11:09 AM (permalink)
    Fortunately I have a 2nd screen that I put the Dock in.  For most purposes that works fine - it is big enough that most modules drag and drop and are still big enough.  I do wish one could re-order the modules/screens, and sometimes the prv or other screens need to be expanded.  But for 90% of operations, the timeline on one side and dock on the other work nicely.
     
    As usual w/ software, it is coming to terms w/ the hardware/soft interface to let one work as smoothly as possible.  If I only had one screen I could see wearing out the D key on my keyboard.
     
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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 11:23 AM (permalink)
    toggle maximize in the dock by holding down Shift and pressing D.
    this give full view of the prv and hides it with one key stroke.

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 12:37 AM (permalink)
    Thanks for the help!!  I have two monitors, and it appears (from my limited experimentation) if I drag the multidock over to monitor2 and then take a peek at various piano rolls, that they open up over there, not on my main screen where they are (sad to say) pretty useless.  That is good.

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 12:37 AM (permalink)
    Thanks for the help!!  I have two monitors, and it appears (from my limited experimentation) if I drag the multidock over to monitor2 and then take a peek at various piano rolls, that they open up over there, not on my main screen where they are (sad to say) pretty useless.  That is good.

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 12:37 AM (permalink)
    Thanks for the help!!  I have two monitors, and it appears (from my limited experimentation) if I drag the multidock over to monitor2 and then take a peek at various piano rolls, that they open up over there, not on my main screen where they are (sad to say) pretty useless.  That is good.

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 12:37 AM (permalink)
    Thanks for the help!!  I have two monitors, and it appears (from my limited experimentation) if I drag the multidock over to monitor2 and then take a peek at various piano rolls, that they open up over there, not on my main screen where they are (sad to say) pretty useless.  That is good.

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 12:37 AM (permalink)
    Thanks for the help!!  I have two monitors, and it appears (from my limited experimentation) if I drag the multidock over to monitor2 and then take a peek at various piano rolls, that they open up over there, not on my main screen where they are (sad to say) pretty useless.  That is good.

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 12:37 AM (permalink)
    Thanks for the help!!  I have two monitors, and it appears (from my limited experimentation) if I drag the multidock over to monitor2 and then take a peek at various piano rolls, that they open up over there, not on my main screen where they are (sad to say) pretty useless.  That is good.

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 12:38 AM (permalink)
    Right click on the upper eft icon on screen and select msi which will then open PRV in full screen

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 2:06 PM (permalink)
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    You can hold down the shift key when dragging windows to make sure they don't get docked.



    You want to hold down CTRL not Shift. An easy mistake I sometimes make too.
     
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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 2:32 PM (permalink)
    garrigus
    You want to hold down CTRL not Shift. An easy mistake I sometimes make too.
     
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    I do wish that behavior was the opposite - having to hold down the modifier key to dock.
     

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 5:24 PM (permalink)
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    You can hold down the shift key when dragging windows to make sure they don't get docked.



    You want to hold down CTRL not Shift. An easy mistake I sometimes make too.
     
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    You're right of course Scott
     

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 7:03 PM (permalink)
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    You want to hold down CTRL not Shift. An easy mistake I sometimes make too.
     
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    I do wish that behavior was the opposite - having to hold down the modifier key to dock.
     


    I agree.  The dock isn't too bad in TV about grabbing windows, but in Console view it drives me insane. :)

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 7:32 PM (permalink)
    Duckbar has an option to hide the multi-dock some might find useful.
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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 01, 13 11:33 PM (permalink)
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    You can hold down the shift key when dragging windows to make sure they don't get docked.




     
     
    This feature amuses me... it seems like the behavior is designed to make floating windows seem infuriating so as to justify having to set up a screen set as a solution to a problem that shouldn't be there in the first place.
     
    Bad design.


    It infuriates me and is almost all of the reason why I still use 8.5.

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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 02, 13 10:19 AM (permalink)
    One of my other primary tools incorporated a docking system in the early 00s. Hate, hate, hated it...until one day the proverbial light bulb went off and I seemed to understand what the developers were trying to provide. After that it became a serious infatuation and is now so incorporated into my thinking that I don't think I could live with out it...or I could but why would I?
     
    When Cakewalk was demoing the upcoming features in X1 and I saw the multi-dock I was thinking tres magnifique amigos! Personally I love the multi-dock, it's there if I need it and I can bypass it if I want to. I can float windows if need be or I can dock them.
     
    What I really disliked was the inability to manage all the window in 8.5. It used to drive me bonkers. If Sonar was still set up solely like that I would have moved on to a different DAW.
     
    Just saying...
     
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    Re: Multidock too grabby August 02, 13 10:27 AM (permalink)
    I must be missing something.  You don't want to open it and then double click on the tab to maximize it?
     
    I always do that and it is an extra click initially, but then I just hit D to open and close the view as needed. 
     
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