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Automation Reverst to Wrong Envelope
I've been searching the forum and web, and apparently can't find the appropriate keywords to search. I come up empty handed. Sonar X2A (all Sonar plugs) - I record band practice using a project template. This template evolves over time, but is fairly consistent from session to session. I don't often listen back while mixing down, or even after, so I was unaware of the problem for months (I do not know when it actually started, or if it goes back to an update from 8.5.3 to X1 to X2 to X2A or whatever). - I discovered months ago that tracks 5 & 6 had a mind of their own. The fader should be around -12, but keep turning to -2.2 (as if it was reading an automation file). - No problem right? I must've accidentally bumped a virtual fader and/or recorded some automation. But the automation lanes did not show any such moves. - I didn't see any automation, but maybe there's something hidden in one of the plugins, so I created a new track template and copied the audio to it (less events, etc...) - Same thing happens in the new track. - I turn off the read enable button. The volume still does what it wants. - I finally managed to keep the faders down by drawing a volume envelope at approx. -12 that lasted for about 3 hours of session time (average rehearsal for us). It's not exact, but it seems to put a band-aid on it and let me get back to work. So I basically gave up. I found my workaround and worked with it for the last few months. I figure I must've recorded some piece of automation that was buried deep within the original session. Well tonight, I finally had a chance to create a new project/session template from scratch. That ought to solve the problem once and for all. No such luck. Now track #6 keeps reverting to -38.2 (at least it's not -2.2 blowing out my speakers everytime the floor tom hits). Any ideas? Any hidden automation envelopes I can check? The only plugs are a couple of Pro Channel modules, no sends/returns, automation read/write is currently disabled. There are probably details I've left out, or things that I've tried but can't remember.I'll update if needed. Any guidance, or links to related threads, would be greatly appreciated. My PC(s) have always been trouble free with Sonar. I'd be incredibly disappointed if this is actually a bug (hopefully X3 will be out soon enough). Thanks, Gregg
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Re: Automation Reverst to Wrong Envelope
August 02, 13 5:23 AM
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re: Automation Reverst to Wrong Envelope
August 02, 13 5:31 AM
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Sounds like you might be in offset mode. Are there little + signs on any of your faders/controls? If so, press 'O' to get back to Envelope mode Just an observation, you say "I don't often listen back while mixing down, or even after" Really? I mean really? You don't listen back to your mixes???
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Re: Automation Reverst to Wrong Envelope
August 02, 13 9:00 AM
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Thanks guys, I'll check into both this evening and report back. "You don't listen back to your mixes???" Yeah - putting it that way sounds worse than it is really. lol. But like I said, these are rehearsal tapes for archive purposes.A glorified boombox cassette recorder in the corner, except with 16 isolated tracks to play with. The mics and preamps never move, so I simply let it roll 'til we're done, then I normalize the audio tracks, and export the session. Normalizing tracks reduces some of the problems when someone changes an amp, or if drummer has had too much coffee and plays louder than usual - or whatever. Truth be told, I've been doing it for years, and it works for this application. Well, except for the odd problem reported above anyway. I would never do a proper "mix" this way. And there are occasions when I go back to the multitrack files and spend a bit more time on them (it's just not the norm). Thanks again -
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Re: Automation Reverst to Wrong Envelope
August 02, 13 2:07 PM
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It never ceases to amaze me the huge number of different ways that people use this software. It all helps the world go round. Hope you get your problem sorted
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