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ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast...

If you have clear skies go out and take a look. It will be tracking from near Atlanta to almost right over NYC but you shuld be able to see it from most anywhere in the east or NE... about 10 minutes.
My favorite iPhone APP is ISS Spotter. We saw it last night but it is too cloudy here tonight.
It is about the size of a football field, travels 9x faster than a bullet, circles the globe about every 95 minutes... go out and look, here it will be at about a 70 degree angle. IT will be the brightest thing in the sky.
 
Get ISS Spotter. It is free and cool... go look!
 
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/06 20:56:10 (permalink)
It is still over the pacific, approaching Acapulco but it will be here in 4 minutes. Last night we saw it at 9:48. I checked it's position at 10:45, it was south of Australia... it really is amazing.
 
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/06 21:00:03 (permalink)
Is over Mexico now, going between Atlanta and Macon, just west of Charlotte, just west of Richmond, almost over D.C., right over New JErsey and NYC, east of Vermont and Maine. Already halfway over the gulf of Mexico as I typed this... will go just east of New Orleans... like now.
 
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/06 21:01:28 (permalink)
McCue should be able to see it now...

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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/06 21:08:01 (permalink)
Is in north Atlantic off Maine coast now... so fast. I wish were so fast... actually over Halifax now.
 
 
 

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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/06 21:12:44 (permalink)
Sorry... I was excited.  
 
I think it is really cool.

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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/06 21:44:52 (permalink)
Sometimes when you look up at night you can see the moon too.

 
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/06 21:59:15 (permalink)
Darn I missed it. It started raining again this evening so I guess I would have missed it anyways.
 
Ok you got me excited. Why is it so bright?
 
I'll be out there tomorrow.
 
 
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/07 08:02:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby craigb 2013/08/07 17:02:26
Does anyone mind if I'm a little pedantic for a moment?
 
Why do people refer to it as 'flying' overhead, when technically it is falling?  (but with style...)

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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/07 08:52:59 (permalink)
I try to catch it from time to time as well as the Iridium satellites when they are all -3 or better in brightness.
 
The best ISS viewing I ever saw was when I was on vacation and it was directly overhead..... went from horizion to horizon and was -6 ....very bright and very impressive.  That's been the best sighting on the ISS so far...... I've also seen some impressive Iridium flares.
 
I use the android ISS DETECTOR app... it's also free, and it has a count down to the event.... and a compass with an alarm beeper to let you know when something is happening "now"...
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/07 09:22:55 (permalink)
Thanks jbow. Will be taking the little ones out tonight to see this.

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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/07 09:26:01 (permalink)
Pardon my ignorance, but isn't this happening every day?

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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/07 09:37:36 (permalink)
I'm thinking you are joking so I don't want to seem pedantic. But here's a basic explanation. 
 
The viewing opportunities are the result of angles of incidence and reflection.
 
You need the placement of the sun, the ISS, and yourself to all be in the right place at the right time.
 
If you lay on your back and star gaze right at, and just after, sunset you can observe dozens of satellite reflections streaking across the sky. It seems random, but I suppose you can learn which ones they are because the ones you see have to part of the incidence and reflection coincidence and that is predictable. The ones that don't reflect light down towards you simply *fall* by your particular location unnoticed.
 
I'm still curious about why the ISS is the brightest thing in the sky. Maybe it is because it is the most massive satellite that is up there?
 
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/07 11:48:54 (permalink)
Why is it so bright?
 
With the solar panels it about the size of a football field. Yes is is falling but a small rocket pushes it back up about every two weeks. It comes over about every 90 minutes or so.
 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/iss-spotter/id523486350?mt=8
 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.runar.issdetector&hl=en
 
https://twitter.com/ISS_spotter
 
another cool site: http://www.heavens-above.com/ check out the irridium flares. They are satellites that flash in the daytime wheh the sun catches the solar panels. If you know where and when to look you can see them too.
 
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/07 11:50:31 (permalink)
Wow!
 
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/07 12:24:44 (permalink)
Spaceweather.com has a simple satellite tracker for your location. ISS is easy to spot :-)
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/07 15:20:41 (permalink)
Of course none of the satellites or the ISS pass on the same exact orbit each time. The ISS is easy to see when the conditions are all correct.  The Iridium satellites are more "fleeting" in what they do..... hence they are called flares.... again their solar arrays are reflecting the sunlight to the earth but the "spot" they cast on the earth is smaller....closer in size to 30 mile diameter..... and traveling at 18,000 mph so if you are in it, it's very bright but it lasts only a few seconds as the spot of light passes your location.
 
You can many times see the satellite coming as a very faint spot of moving light..... then as the cone of light hits your location it flares up and down literally in 3 to 8 seconds and it's gone.  The closer you are to the center of the cone on the ground the brighter it is..... These are mostly visible anywhere from soon after sunset to around 11 pm and then again in the 3 to 4 hrs before sunrise.... the angles are best closer to the sunset/rise for a nice bright viewing....
 
The ISS generally keeps the same brightness throughout it's pass..... which can last from a minute or less to several minutes....
 
Then of course, there are all the other satellites which are also visible.  I often see them when camping. Laying on a lounge chair under the open, dark sky as the fire is dying and the sky is clear..... they are visible as dim, but fast moving, non-blinking lights on a straight path in the start field. Jets and other aircraft have blinking lights on them that is easily visible to ground observers. The satellites are the non-blinking objects..... and there are over 3000 of them up there so seeing one is just a matter of being patient on any given clear dark night.

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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/07 17:19:04 (permalink)
I just looked but couldn't see it.  Of course, right now I can't see much of anything after accidentally looking into the eye of the sun...
 
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/07 19:51:56 (permalink)
Do you have sun spots Craig?  Oh and.. was the fun there?
 
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/08 07:03:56 (permalink)
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Why is it so bright?
 
With the solar panels it about the size of a football field. Yes is is falling but a small rocket pushes it back up about every two weeks. It comes over about every 90 minutes or so.
 

This is close, but not quite correct.
ALL satelites in orbit are falling.  That doesn't mean they're getting closer to the ground though because they are also traveling horizontally at such a speed that the curved surface of the Earth falls away at the same rate, hence they appear to be "flying".  ISS doesn't have rockets to keep it in orbit,  just a few small thrusters to make small corrections to its orbit.
 
Yes,  most satelites in LEO (Low Earth Orbit) take about 90 minutes (depending on their exact height) to circle the Earth, but most satelites (including ISS) have an orbit which is angled in relation to Earths axis so they can over-fly (over-fall) most of the surface.
However, the Earth continues to turn during that time so a ground observer watching a pass of ISS would be in the wrong place 90 mins later for the next pass.  The Sun and ISS have to be in the right place for the light to reflect to earth and be seen, soon after sunset and just befor dawn, and this must coincide with ISS being in the right part of its orbit to be within your field of view.  It can often be several weeks between viewing opportunities, assuming there is no cloud cover on the specific day to choose to look...
 
 
The best view I had of ISS was 3 or 4 years ago when it passed almost directly over Englands south coast (about as far north as ISS goes) on a perfectly clear evening (where I was) with a space shuttle just a few miles away chasing it down for docking.

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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/08 08:29:02 (permalink)
The family & I saw it last evening for a few minutes and it was quite impressive.....the children were excited to see it too.
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Re: ISS about to fly over SW to NE... about 9:00 PM it goes fast... 2013/08/08 09:22:32 (permalink)
Space Station.  *Pfft.*  Next you're going to say men have been to the moon!  What's next???
 


 
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