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cpu usage problem in multi core pc
Hi Guys
It is for long time I am suffering by cpu usage and I couldn't find any solution for it. I do have a pc with i7 processor and 14 GB ram. Any time I do have a big and heavy project, all the 8 cpu's indicators in sonar go up and down but the first one always hit the end and stops the project. The other are usually go up and down about less than half, just the first cpu indicator hits the end. Is there any way to divide the pressure evenly on all the cores?
By the way I am using sonar V_STUDIO 700 R and Console and just using Waves plugins.
Thanks
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/10 20:18:19
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In Preferences, do you have the box checked that is for Multiprocessing Engine?
Also, go to Windows System Information and make sure multiple cores are utilized - it will show there.
Please detail the plugins used in one of these projects that is causing you grief, AND please detail exactly how you have come to believe it is a CPU usage failure.
Thanks,
Bob Bone
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/10 20:20:02
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/10 20:28:51
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robert_e_bone
In Preferences, do you have the box checked that is for Multiprocessing Engine?
Also, go to Windows System Information and make sure multiple cores are utilized - it will show there.
Please detail the plugins used in one of these projects that is causing you grief, AND please detail exactly how you have come to believe it is a CPU usage failure.
Thanks,
Bob Bone
Hi Thanks Bob for replay Yes, Multiprocessing is checked and i tried by uncheck same issue. I am using lots of C1, some IR1, One knob And Hdelay, but most of them are Frozen to make the CPU more relax to work. Project stops as soon as the first core indicator hits the end thats why i am thinking it should be the cpu usage failure. maybe i am wrong. Thanks again for respond :)
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/10 21:03:51
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Question - what happens if you hit 'E' to bypass all effects?
Does the issue go away?
('E' on your computer keyboard toggles off/on effects bypassing).
I am wondering if one or more of your plugins is behaving badly.
Bob Bone
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/10 22:58:02
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If you go into preferences and get into the initialization files there's a setting for multi-core thread count. I have had some success by changing the value in that setting.
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/11 13:26:55
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robert_e_bone
Question - what happens if you hit 'E' to bypass all effects?
Does the issue go away?
('E' on your computer keyboard toggles off/on effects bypassing).
I am wondering if one or more of your plugins is behaving badly.
Bob Bone
I bypassed the effects. Ok now it wouldn't hit the end and project wouldn't stop anymore but still the first core indicator shows more usage compare to the left 7 cores which are going up and down 1/3 of the first one.Any idea?
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/11 13:26:41
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robert_e_bone
Question - what happens if you hit 'E' to bypass all effects?
Does the issue go away?
('E' on your computer keyboard toggles off/on effects bypassing).
I am wondering if one or more of your plugins is behaving badly.
Bob Bone
I bypassed the effects. Ok now it wouldn't hit the end and project wouldn't stop anymore but still the first core indicator shows more usage compare to the left 7 cores which are going up and down 1/3 of the first one.Any idea?
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/11 13:26:45
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robert_e_bone
Question - what happens if you hit 'E' to bypass all effects?
Does the issue go away?
('E' on your computer keyboard toggles off/on effects bypassing).
I am wondering if one or more of your plugins is behaving badly.
Bob Bone
I bypassed the effects. Ok now it wouldn't hit the end and project wouldn't stop anymore but still the first core indicator shows more usage compare to the left 7 cores which are going up and down 1/3 of the first one.Any idea?
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reza
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/11 13:26:44
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robert_e_bone
Question - what happens if you hit 'E' to bypass all effects?
Does the issue go away?
('E' on your computer keyboard toggles off/on effects bypassing).
I am wondering if one or more of your plugins is behaving badly.
Bob Bone
I bypassed the effects. Ok now it wouldn't hit the end and project wouldn't stop anymore but still the first core indicator shows more usage compare to the left 7 cores which are going up and down 1/3 of the first one.Any idea?
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/11 13:45:13
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Have you tried this:
Start menu->right click on Computer->Properties->Advanced system settings->Advanced->Performace->Settings->Advanced
In the processor scheduling box, make sure Adjust for best performance of background services is checked.
Don't know if it'll help your particular problem but it is a basic DAW optimization technique.
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/11 15:21:28
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@REZA
Quoting your response from above: "I bypassed the effects. Ok now it wouldn't hit the end and project wouldn't stop anymore but still the first core indicator shows more usage compare to the left 7 cores which are going up and down 1/3 of the first one.Any idea?"
It would seem to me that you have one or more effects that are causing your issues. There are plugins that are specifically designed for use in Mixing and/or Mastering, and NOT intended to be used for tracking/recording.
Additional plugin issues include generally faulty plugins OR 32-bit plugins that do not play nicely with BitBridge in 64-bit Sonar.
I would suggest you avoid recording with plugins that are CPU intensive, or those that use look-ahead processing, AND I suggest you review the use of 32-bit plugins in a 64-bit Sonar installation, as SOME of these can cause problems.
Try going through your plugins one at a time, until you get it figured out.
Bob Bone
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/11 22:34:48
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sharke
Have you tried this:
Start menu->right click on Computer->Properties->Advanced system settings->Advanced->Performace->Settings->Advanced
In the processor scheduling box, make sure Adjust for best performance of background services is checked.
Don't know if it'll help your particular problem but it is a basic DAW optimization technique.
thanks I think i have done it before but i will check it.
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/11 22:34:47
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sharke
Have you tried this:
Start menu->right click on Computer->Properties->Advanced system settings->Advanced->Performace->Settings->Advanced
In the processor scheduling box, make sure Adjust for best performance of background services is checked.
Don't know if it'll help your particular problem but it is a basic DAW optimization technique.
thanks I think i have done it before but i will check it.
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/11 22:45:52
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@REZA
Quoting your response from above: "I bypassed the effects. Ok now it wouldn't hit the end and project wouldn't stop anymore but still the first core indicator shows more usage compare to the left 7 cores which are going up and down 1/3 of the first one.Any idea?"
It would seem to me that you have one or more effects that are causing your issues. There are plugins that are specifically designed for use in Mixing and/or Mastering, and NOT intended to be used for tracking/recording.
Additional plugin issues include generally faulty plugins OR 32-bit plugins that do not play nicely with BitBridge in 64-bit Sonar.
I would suggest you avoid recording with plugins that are CPU intensive, or those that use look-ahead processing, AND I suggest you review the use of 32-bit plugins in a 64-bit Sonar installation, as SOME of these can cause problems.
Try going through your plugins one at a time, until you get it figured out.
Bob Bone
Thanks Bob for replying No I never use plugins for recording. I just use them for mixing.Also I do have the Mercury bundle which supports 64bit, and i should say i use sonar x1 32bit always because of some plugins which are not 64 bit. Also I should add something , some times during working every thing is fine but all of a sudden i hear a really really loud white noise out of my speakers and sonar first cpu indicator hits the end and force me to close the program and reload it. robert_e_bone
@REZA
Quoting your response from above: "I bypassed the effects. Ok now it wouldn't hit the end and project wouldn't stop anymore but still the first core indicator shows more usage compare to the left 7 cores which are going up and down 1/3 of the first one.Any idea?"
It would seem to me that you have one or more effects that are causing your issues. There are plugins that are specifically designed for use in Mixing and/or Mastering, and NOT intended to be used for tracking/recording.
Additional plugin issues include generally faulty plugins OR 32-bit plugins that do not play nicely with BitBridge in 64-bit Sonar.
I would suggest you avoid recording with plugins that are CPU intensive, or those that use look-ahead processing, AND I suggest you review the use of 32-bit plugins in a 64-bit Sonar installation, as SOME of these can cause problems.
Try going through your plugins one at a time, until you get it figured out.
Bob Bone
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/11 22:56:11
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StarTekh
Hi Thanks for advise. Ya it was really helpful to run the rest of my cores.
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/11 23:30:56
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I wish you had posted your system specs - I have been thinking you were running a 64-bit install of Sonar - my fault for not asking, I suppose.
Have you tried increasing your buffers? This would be Preferences>Audio>Sync and Caching, try altering the Playback I/O Buffer Size from 250 to 500, and the same for the Record I/O Buffer Size (set to 500).
It should help you during mixing.
Bob Bone
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/11 23:34:46
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There is also a parameter in the AUD.INI file that Sonar uses, called DropoutMsec, and it has a default value of 250. You could try altering that to 500 as well. Its value is in milliseconds, and is a time allotment used for Sonar to detect data starvation.
To edit it, go to Preferences>Audio>Configuration File, click on the Edit Config File button, make the change, save the text file, then click on Reload Config Settings to pull in the new values.
Bob Bone
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/18 23:13:06
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robert_e_bone
There is also a parameter in the AUD.INI file that Sonar uses, called DropoutMsec, and it has a default value of 250. You could try altering that to 500 as well. Its value is in milliseconds, and is a time allotment used for Sonar to detect data starvation.
To edit it, go to Preferences>Audio>Configuration File, click on the Edit Config File button, make the change, save the text file, then click on Reload Config Settings to pull in the new values.
Bob Bone
Thanks Robert yes i changed them as you said. it is better now but i think i should play with is values for each song to get the best result. but i was checking youtube, i found out all the users have same problem i mean the first core indicator in sonar always is higher than the others, when the project is heavy and first indicator hit the end the other cores wouldn't help to make it even and prevent the drop out. they are always lower than the first one. :)
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Re: cpu usage problem in multi core pc
2013/08/20 01:48:02
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I'm not seeing your OS - Window's 7?
If so,
Yup - you'll get that... Microsoft issue.
Supposedly Win 8 offers improved core balancing, so I'm watching other's posts of Win8/Sonar X2 with interest.
A work-a-round is to increase your buffers/latency on playback/mix, and disable FX with lower buffer/latency during record...
...you can also bypass select track FX to lower CPU load.
Good luck,
MG
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