Peter Rabbit
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Would like to compare results of this hearing test for mixing purposes.
Below is a link to a Youtube video for a hearing test. I for one could not hear anything beyond 8,000 Hz, which apparantly is normal for my age. Even though I can't hear the frequencies above 8,000 the meters on my mixer definately detects them, which tells me that they are indeed being played. I suppose this means that all those adjustments I've been making with my EQ that are above 8,000 Hz have been useless adjustments since I haven't been hearing them anyway? I could have sworn I was hearing a difference after those adjustments but I suppose it was my imagination. Just wondering if any of the rest of you can hear them? I'm hoping you folks could please click on the link below, state the highest frequency you can hear, and include your age in your response. I'm curious to see if the rest of you can hear these frequencies. Example: I can't hear anything above 8,000 Hz and I'm 58. (But I look 35) EDIT: Oh, yea. They say to use the option to watch it in 1080p and to use headphones. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxcbppCX6Rk Thanks, Pete
post edited by Peter Rabbit - 2013/08/15 09:33:29
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jbow
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Re: Would like to compare results of this hearing test for mixing purposes.
2013/08/15 09:32:06
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What??? I always tell people, "I am gad I am not as old as I feel"... it usually takes them a minute. I did an online hearing test last week. My right ear is worse than my left. I was able to hear all the tones, with both ears with and without the noise.. so I am not sure how they measured it, but I think they are probably right since my right ear has gotten more abuse from guitar amps. I will try the YT test too, thanks! I think I used the Siemens Hearing Test APP on my phone with AKG phones... what?? J
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2013/08/15 09:32:49
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I, astoundingly, made it all the way to 15000. Which is hard to believe since I spent way too many years playing live music way too loud.
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Peter Rabbit
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Re: Would like to compare results of this hearing test for mixing purposes.
2013/08/15 09:40:08
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Really? All the way to 15,000?!?!? I listened to the 1080p HD and use headphones. I also turned the volume up above distortion level and still couldn't hear anything past 8,000 Hz. Geez! I guess the mixing game is reserved for only the young-uns. I've actually been under the impression that I've been hearing a difference in the adjustments I've been making in those frequencies. Now I'm feeling a bit foolish.
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2013/08/15 09:41:02
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I'd be surprised if I could make it all the way to 150.
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jbow
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2013/08/15 09:41:31
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OK... I'm going to the doctor. All I can hear is 8K... I could hear higher on the Siemens test, I am confused. I wonder how much my tinitis has to do with it. It is really loud this AM. Going to try the Siemens test again, I wonder why the discrepancy. J
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2013/08/15 09:47:47
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☼ Best Answerby Peter Rabbit 2013/08/15 09:53:01
I'm 60 and I've had serious damage to my hammer and anvil (layman terms) in my left ear. I've had 5 operations by the time I was 45 on my left ear. I have semi serious damage to my right ear (2 operations by the time I was 30). Other hearing tests show that I can't hear much beyond 5/6K respectively.
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2013/08/15 09:53:20
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I heard 12,000 easily, but 15,000 was very faint. Beyond that, I felt pressure, but didn't hear sound. To answer your question, I'm 52, but I feel like a rotting 873.
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jbow
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Re: Would like to compare results of this hearing test for mixing purposes.
2013/08/15 09:54:29
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I tried this one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o810PkmEsOI I could hear 30hz and it dropped off dramatically at around 8khz I could hear a little to about 10 or 11khz but only because the sound began to move in the stereo field. It got louder at about 100hz. I guess any mixing abouve 8khz should be done usung meters and I shoud always get a second opinion... a good case for someone eslse mastering but I wonder how people like George Martin mastered when older. I am sure a lot of the older mastering "masters" suffer from the same hearing loss, how could they not? Interesting. Thanks for posting. Julien
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Peter Rabbit
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2013/08/15 10:00:02
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Ahhh! This is the first time I've posted anything in these forums since the format change and I can't seem to find the insert quote feature where I used to copy and paste a sentence or two from other's responsive posts. All I can find is something that posts in quotes their entire response. Anyway this is a response to bapu's last post. An exceptional case like yours is understandable that you won't be able to hear those frequencies. However your post made me remember that I bursted both eardrums when I was in my early twentys. As a result if I'm in an environment where there's a lot of background noise (ie: a night club, a very noisy restuarant, etc.), I have difficulty hearing hearing during conversation.
"Creating a bad song takes just as much time and energy as creating a good one. The problem is that you don't know it's a bad song until someone tells you, and by then it's too late." P. Rabbit
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Peter Rabbit
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Re: Would like to compare results of this hearing test for mixing purposes.
2013/08/15 10:06:24
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Wow! These are interesting responses. It never really registered to me how differently folks are hearing my music. I always knew that hearing high frequencies declined as we aged but never really thought that much about it. Sometimes I think I want my cymbals to "sizzle" more and I'll adjust those frequencies. Then I'll listen back and swear that I can hear a difference. Perhaps I'm not hearing a difference but am just more focused while listening and I only think that I'm hearing a difference.
"Creating a bad song takes just as much time and energy as creating a good one. The problem is that you don't know it's a bad song until someone tells you, and by then it's too late." P. Rabbit
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Re: Would like to compare results of this hearing test for mixing purposes.
2013/08/15 10:06:30
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I can just hear the 15K if I turned my headphones up a lot. But nothing above that. I guess that's normal at 40, and pretty amazing considering all the 12 hour raves I went to in my youth, as well as being in a thrash metal band at 17, and of course a lifetime of headphone use. It's sad to know that there's nothing you can do to get the high frequencies back when you get older. I can still remember what it was like to hear as a kid....I used to hear ridiculously high pitched harmonics in people's voices that had an almost metallic quality. Can't really describe it better than that...but I certainly don't hear them anymore! I take a high powered magnesium supplement every day (Natural Calm) and especially before I do any work on headphones. Magnesium is proven to protect the ears from noise exposure so I consider it worth doing.
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Re: Would like to compare results of this hearing test for mixing purposes.
2013/08/15 10:09:16
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just remember boosting ABOVE 15k still effects harmonic content of stuff BELOW 15k but if you can't hear that, there's not much point
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2013/08/15 10:09:44
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Oh and regarding that YouTube video, I wonder how many hearing specialists would endorse such an online test? I bet it's nowhere near as accurate as a proper medical hearing test. Nonetheless, it's scary how many people in the comments are reporting high frequency loss at young ages. This is the explosion of iPods and loud earbuds over the last 10 years or so. I read something in the papers a while ago saying that hearing loss is endemic among the young because of it.
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Re: Would like to compare results of this hearing test for mixing purposes.
2013/08/15 10:19:53
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Thanks for all the responses. I think this is very interesting. I checked out jbow's link in his above post and tried that test. If I kept the volume level static throughout the test I could hear until about 12,000. If turned the volume up extremely loud I could hear things all the way until the end but it sounded as though the signal was not a "steady" frequency but rather going up and down the spectrum of frequencies so I'm a bit confused about that one.
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jbow
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2013/08/15 10:25:30
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sharke Oh and regarding that YouTube video, I wonder how many hearing specialists would endorse such an online test? I bet it's nowhere near as accurate as a proper medical hearing test. Nonetheless, it's scary how many people in the comments are reporting high frequency loss at young ages. This is the explosion of iPods and loud earbuds over the last 10 years or so. I read something in the papers a while ago saying that hearing loss is endemic among the young because of it.
I've often wondered about that. It is sad. I ask my grand daughters all the time about it when they have buds in. I always encourage them to keep it LOW. Who ever heard of quiet RocknRoll though? Do you remember the stereo wars of the 1970s? Mostly Pioneer and Sansui but Marantz and a few others. They made some KILLER home stereos. I have a Pioneer SX-1010 and a Sansui that runs about 70w per channel. I mostly use the Sansui because I have the matching speakers with the wood lattice but the Pioneer is a beast. It is 110w per channel (100w RMS at .05% THD). I don't have speakers I am willing to risk by using it yet. I need to get a pair that will shine with it. Now what were we talking about and why can't we hear?? J
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Re: Would like to compare results of this hearing test for mixing purposes.
2013/08/15 10:41:52
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Should the fact that I can hear 20Hz loud and clear offset the disappointment I have at not being able to hear above 15K? Think I'm going to concentrate on reggae and dubstep from now on
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2013/08/15 10:51:39
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you should search for the 'brown note'
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2013/08/15 11:26:31
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I couldn't hear past 8K on the first test, but I just barely made it up to 11K on the second test.
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2013/08/15 11:31:03
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I could easily hear 15k, and possibly 16k, but I'm not sure about the frequencies above that (I could tell something was going on - just couldn't make out what). Not bad when you're about 50! Considering the loud stuff I've subjected myself to I'm a bit surprised. 80,000 watts at an underground club comes to mind. I actually saw a girl with very long hair put her head in front of a large speaker cab (one of several that made up a wall about 12' x 12') and her hair was going straight back due to the are coming out of the speaker...
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Re: Would like to compare results of this hearing test for mixing purposes.
2013/08/15 16:25:14
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To put it in musical perspective (hearing sensitivity drops a LOT over a just few semitones): 7,040.00 A 7,458.62 Bb 7,902.13 B 8,372.02 C 8,869.84 C# 9,397.27 D 9,956.06 Eb 10,548.08 E 11,175.30 F 11,839.82 F# 12,543.85 G 13,289.75 G# 14,080.00 A 14,917.24 Bb 15,804.27 B 16,744.04 C 17,739.69 C# 18,794.55 D 19,912.13 Eb 21,096.16 E 22,350.61 F 23,679.64 F# 25,087.71 G 26,579.50 G# 28,160.00 A
 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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