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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/15 21:45:20
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/15 21:58:52
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Everybody seems to have a X something or other. Probably to make the generation X-er's feel all warn and fuzzy.
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/15 22:17:56
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It's just a bunch of Xcrement. Who cares?
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/15 22:27:13
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Yeah but comcast just has an X1. Cakewalk has X2 with an X3 on the way. That's way better than a measly X1.
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/15 22:41:02
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SuperG
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/15 23:27:01
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Bah, Nobody who's not a dope is gonna confuse a DAW with a Beemer and a set-top program. Judge Judy would toss it.. (but then, she tosses just about everything...)
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Teds_Studio
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/15 23:50:22
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You can't copyright names, titles, and phrases. Now a trademark is a different story.
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Keni
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 00:03:53
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Awe... Lets rename sonar simply as XXXX and start tagging update numbers to it!
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cparmerlee
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 01:24:08
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jbow Monster cable would not let it stand and personally I don't think you should... but I could be wrong. I don't know copywrite law and these people have deep pockets, then again deep pockets have lots of cash for paying damages... http://www.comcast.com/x1?CMP=KNC-IQ_ID_59904975-VQ2-g-VQ3--VQ6-34371375946-VQ16-c&iq_id=59904975&NUM=2
That would be quite a stretch to argue they are in the same industry. Without that, there really couldn't be a claim. How many different businesses have the name "Ace" for example. If you try to open a hardware store under that name, you will get a call from ACE Hardware's lawyers. But if you are in the windshield replacement business, ACE hardware has nothing to say about that.
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 01:53:03
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SuperG Nobody who's not a dope is gonna confuse a DAW with a Beemer and a set-top program
I've been flipping through my remote looking for a good B3 patch.....no wonder I couldn't find it  . Uh-oh, I think I just let a skeleton sneak out of the closet.
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 05:22:45
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Well - Cakewalk was very late with it's "X-ness"... There is already an X, X2, a few versions of X3, AND a complete "Rebith of X" Look here: http://www.egosoft.com/games/x_rebirth/info_en.phpTake a look at the side menu under "Games"... A lot of X here! Now - I will admit it has not much to do with a DAW, but hey...... It's X isn't it?
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 06:06:58
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Anyone feel the need for an Xlax?
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thebiglongy
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 07:28:33
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This thread looks like it's the result of Xlax lol.
It's actually called X1 Platform and tbh, I am fed up of reading about companies bickering over a name or some other pointless ****. It's about time companies concentrated more on bringing quality products to the table, instead of wasting time over who's got the biggest market share and who got there first.
And this thread would be better suited to the coffee house.
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joeb1cannoli
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 08:01:56
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Isn't X2 the same as dos equis? And it's the most interesting daw in the world.
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sharke
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 09:18:53
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X1 is just an edition identifier, not the product itself, the full name of which is Sonar X1. Even if it were the full name of the product, I doubt whether it would be a very strong trademark since the significant "name" part of it would be the X itself (the 1 is just a numerical indicator, implying the eventual existence of an X2, X3 etc). So there is a huge difference in trademark strength between, say, BP and X1. You can't imagine anyone getting very far trying to trademark the letter X. The more characters you have, the stronger the trademark. So there aren't many trademarks of two characters (BP is a good example) but once you add a third, it takes off exponentially (ABC, BMW, CNN etc). You could have a strong two character trademark within a particular industry, so you're not going to get far trying to trademark "AP" if you're in the field of journalism, but if you're a plumber then the Associated Press can't really do anything to stop you using the name.
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 10:32:33
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Then there was the famous lawsuit involving Apple Computer and Apple Records. The resolution was they could coexist as long as Apple Computer stayed out of the music business.
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cparmerlee
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 10:52:22
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I think they would have a stronger claim if they had an X2-B out in the market.
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Peter Morrison
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 11:14:20
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How many ACME's are there, Sonar's for that matter?
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 15:18:52
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So on the OP's basis, Serif can sue the pants off Cakewalk when they go to X3 through to X7, and maybe X2 as well. 'X' is a roman numeral and as such cannot be protected.
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 16:20:42
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dimelives1 Don't forget this one... http://bit.ly/byxmsG
One cannot copyright or trademark a title. We could all write films and songs and books called X2. Trademarking must be done by category. My band is trademarked, but there is an infrared microscope with the same name. Not a problem.
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dmbaer
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 16:53:49
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Bell had first dibs on the name:
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sharke
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 17:55:46
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I'm not 100% sure about trademark law but I know that the strongest trademarks are unique words that don't describe the product. Xerox and Kodak are great examples. They're so unique that it doesn't matter what industry you're in, you couldn't use those words. They're referred to as "fanciful marks." Someone naming their business Kodak Plumbing would quickly find themselves at the wrong end of a lawsuit. Arbitrary marks are those trademarks which use common words but which don't have anything to do with the product, which is why Apple is able to trademark the word Apple. If they were selling apples, they wouldn't have a very good time defending that trademark. I got threatened with legal action for using a generic phrase which identifies what we do in a prominent position on my website. One of my competitors thought he was being clever by naming his company that phrase, which also happens to be the #1 search term for our area of business in New York. He got good Google ranking because of it, but when it came to defending his trademark he didn't have a hope in hell and I told him where to go. Sonar X1 is a strong all round trademark - I doubt anyone would get away with naming an unrelated product the same. But "Sonar" and "X1" are only strong trademarks in the field of DAW's.
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Jeff Evans
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 21:04:33
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I feel the OP is over reacting. (you must have a lot of time on your hands! ) I see Sonar X1 as a strong trademark but not the X1 by itself. I see that as weak and there are many products that use that in their title, software included. For example the now Emulator sampler software is called EMU X3. The first one must have been EMU X1. Cakewalk does not really own the term X1. So the new EMU sampler is X3, does that mean they can sue Cake now for using that term. EMU had it first after all.
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/16 23:38:18
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Imagine the lunacy of Apple Records suing Apple Computer for using the name Apple. They basically lost but tried again later for a different reason... and lost again. Whoever made the original apple should sue them both.
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mumpcake
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Re: Hey Cake... maybe you chould call your attorney about this.
2013/08/17 01:41:07
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joeb1cannoli Isn't X2 the same as dos equis? And it's the most interesting daw in the world.
"I don't always record into my computer, but when I do..." Unfortunately, your joke implies the next version of Sonar will not be able to be sold to minors (keep it clean.. this is a family forum). Or involve bad acting and explosions.
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