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2013/08/18 18:52:32 (permalink)

X2a

Today it has been 8 months since the X2a patch was released....

Just thought I'd throw that out there...


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    Re: X2a 2013/08/18 19:37:30 (permalink)
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    Re: X2a 2013/08/18 19:42:40 (permalink)
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    Re: X2a 2013/08/27 03:52:31 (permalink)
    Need anything better than x2a ???

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    Re: X2a 2013/08/27 07:42:57 (permalink)
    Yes, I need the plethora of bugs that still exist
    repaired.  But, that won't happen, as X3 is on
    the horizon, to introduce a new wave of bugs.

    But, hey, it's software, what do you expect? 


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    Re: X2a 2013/08/27 11:43:08 (permalink)
    I'm surprised we haven't heard anything official about an update/upgrade from Cakewalk. I guess those kind of communications must not happen anymore.

    Purrrfect Audio DAW here.  Wow!...
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    Re: X2a 2013/08/27 12:01:07 (permalink)
    rtucker55
    I'm surprised we haven't heard anything official about an update/upgrade from Cakewalk. I guess those kind of communications must not happen anymore.


    They happen when the Bakers are ready to tell us. Sometimes they hint @~4weeks before but never "well in advance".
     
    Be patient grasshopper.
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    Re: X2a 2013/08/27 12:10:03 (permalink)
    I have X2a but do not use it - I went back to X1 because of some of the rather minor but irritating graphical "bugs" and irregular crashes - perhaps they are not really bugs, but some of the graphics jumping around with the console view etc - and they seemed so weird and almost impossible to replicate.
    So I went back to X1 and thought I would wait for the patch to sort all these little items out.......................................................
    X1 is 100% stable for me now - when that was released it most certainly WAS NOT - that took FOUR patches to get right - X2 has had one patch then abandoned, which I have to admit I find is not really good enough.
    Now, I will not be leaving Sonar any time soon, but the X2 experience has made me question where next  - do I pay for an upgrade (which in itself might introduce new problems) to repair the X2 issues which should have been addressed by now, or do I stick with my stable X1 for the time being, whilst I have  a look around at other DAWS, which in my case would probably be Presonnus.
    Let's hope Cakewalk surprise us with a free  patch soon before trying to get more money out of us.
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    Re: X2a 2013/08/27 12:12:37 (permalink)
    Bajan Blue
    Let's hope Cakewalk surprise us with a free  patch soon before trying to get more money out of us.
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    Re: X2a 2013/08/27 12:16:01 (permalink)
    Well, they do say miracles can happen, although I have to admit it more likely I will able to turn wine into water (did I get that right?) before Roland gives us anything!!

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    Re: X2a 2013/08/27 12:50:44 (permalink)
    I've been fairly happy with X2, but let's be honest. It needs X2b. I still think the (worthless in my opinion) touch aspect of X2 has caused problems with the graphics. The Pro-channel (which is great) has some well documented bugs that I would love to see fixed. 

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    Re: X2a 2013/08/27 12:51:07 (permalink)
    I'm currently using Cubase these days because of the 'X' issues.
    I'll try an X3 demo first & wait for the first several patches or months before deciding if I'll need it anymore.
    I used to purchase new versions as soon as they were released but not anymore.
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    Re: X2a 2013/08/27 15:35:52 (permalink)
    clintmartin
    I've been fairly happy with X2, but let's be honest. It needs X2b. I still think the (worthless in my opinion) touch aspect of X2 has caused problems with the graphics. The Pro-channel (which is great) has some well documented bugs that I would love to see fixed. 


    carl
    I'm currently using Cubase these days because of the 'X' issues.
    I'll try an X3 demo first & wait for the first several patches or months before deciding if I'll need it anymore.
    I used to purchase new versions as soon as they were released but not anymore.




    Couldn't agree more guys...

    8 months without repairing "Known" issues is ludicrous...I don't care if your working on a new version...
    That's like saying...too bad...just keep using it with the issues, we don't want to spend the time on a fix
    because we're working on a new version...so just tough it out ...

    that's NOT customer friendly service.

    they've really only had one quick fix and one patch...in a year....

    Furthermore, they insist on leaving us like mushrooms...in the DARK and feeding us S**t....
    Up until now, they've always (for the most part) kept the users informed and, because of 
    that, excited about working with the program.  Now, believe me, the THRILL IS GONE!

    I've been using my other DAW's more and more, because of the issues with X2a....and I agree
    with Clint, "Touch" should be an optional install.  I bet a LOT of issues would be resolved with 
    THAT fix alone...I've stated it over and over again...

    Here's to hoping they get it right with X3, because, if not...I think they're in trouble...as much as it
    breaks my heart...


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    Re: X2a 2013/08/27 16:12:28 (permalink)
    Using X1d, bought X2 but haven't even installed it.
     
    I'm using Reason 7 more and more and X1d for the VST plugins.
     
    It is kinda odd that X1 had 4 patches and X2 has had a quick fix and 1 patch in all this time.
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    Re: X2a 2013/08/28 19:18:21 (permalink)
    MachineClaw
    It is kinda odd that X1 had 4 patches and X2 has had a quick fix and 1 patch in all this time.



    That's because X1 needed it sooo much more than X2 ever could!
     
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    Re: X2a 2013/08/30 14:50:27 (permalink)
    Seems like everything has had a update Protools, FL, Studio 1,Logic,and Now REAPER.
    Come on cake let's get one out!



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    Re: X2a 2013/08/30 16:47:09 (permalink)
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    Re: X2a 2013/08/30 17:37:57 (permalink)
    Rather then fix the issues with X2a...they 
    want to get a new version out so they can charge
    for the fixes that should have been available in X2b 
    for free...

    It's purely economics...why waste resources on fixing the problems that
    you've created, and do it for free, when you can charge for it?
     
    Just common sense....


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    Re: X2a 2013/08/31 10:23:24 (permalink)
    Guys its all about "Touch".
    Cake is working feverishly to lead the charge.
    My guess is its buggy as hell and the pressure is oOnN.
    Backwards compatibility is probably a real ****! (whoops, used the "B" word; mybad?)
    Just my nickel98; not a beta man and have NO inside info.
    Just my gut telling me that's the wave we're on.
    Kinda like that "pull in" surfing or whatever they call it.
    Only Cake's jet ski can't cut it!
    T
    post edited by DeeringAmps - 2013/08/31 10:24:35

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    Re: X2a 2013/08/31 10:47:12 (permalink)
    I really want to stay with Cakewalk but the workarounds and other issues, that are not getting patched plus the fact that we are not hearing anything from Cake about fixes, has caused me to layout some cash for competitors DAWs. I would much prefer using/knowing One DAW but I currently feel need to have a backup plan.
     
    As far as the "touch thing" goes I personally have no use for it. I seriously hope that they don't get so buried in it that the next update/upgrade will require users to update their O/S to Windows 8.x. It doesn't make good business sense but who knows...

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    Re: X2a 2013/08/31 10:58:53 (permalink)
    DeeringAmps
    Guys its all about "Touch".
    Cake is working feverishly to lead the charge.



    Its one place that can steal the march on the competition and they are already ahead so it logical X3 will have more touch orientated features. I can't say the prospect excites me. Yes, it enables compact, configurable and low cost multi touch control surface options, but touch screens and I have never really had that great a relationship. Also touch is the reason for the huge screen elements we see on so much software these days. About the only thing I have against WIN 8 is the HUGE tiles on the start screen
     
     
     
    post edited by Glyn Barnes - 2013/08/31 11:00:11

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    Re: X2a 2013/08/31 12:12:49 (permalink)
    they can only "steal the march" if competitors are also interested in the touch gimmick; personally i think they've changed target market to a consumer one (rather than pro)
     
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    Re: X2a 2013/08/31 16:42:35 (permalink)
    If  Cakewalk quit supporting Win 7 then I simply will not upgrade to X3. My system works great and I don't want to pay for an OS I don't need. Roland/Cakewalk need to make some kind of noise pretty soon. It seems like every other DAW company are making big leaps.

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    Re: X2a 2013/09/02 09:43:22 (permalink)
    Maybe I'm whipping a dead horse here; BUT,
     
    If X3 (or any new Sonar Xx) required a move to Win 8.x (with no backward compatibility) to give us the completely "rock solid", truly "Professional" DAW we all want/NEED, I'd have to suck it up and step up.
    Would I "love" leaving my FW-1884 behind? Nope!
    Would I jump on the "Touch" bandwagon (given my experience with the iPhone and the "touch" in general), I'd be cautious before spending a bundle a big screen to lay on the desktop; but I would have to check it out! (I bought a MCU and sent it back)
     
    I'm sure that Win 8.1 is complicating development, or we would have "something".
    Call it X2b or a "quick fix", "hot fix"; whatever.
     
    Look at MS, Win 8 is about as HUGE a success as Vista, and heads are rolling.
     
    In the meantime, I see X2a as a "professional" DAW.
    I'm confident that there is a truly "Professional" DAW in the works...
     
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    Re: X2a 2013/09/04 12:49:26 (permalink)
    Too much time has passed to expect X2b, but had Cakewalk released that, they wouldn't have had to try so hard with $49 last-day sales for upgrades to X2. Sales that sharp illustrate a state of desperation to some degree. An update would have shown a sense of seriousness and true value of the product. I don't want to diminish the hard work of the Cake guys, but I can only explain my perceptions since communications are slim. X2b would have been more appealing than slashing prices to discount the public gripes on forums. Either way works, but you can see how people react to slashed prices vs. how they would react to no sales and a free X2b update. See?

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    Re: X2a 2013/09/04 13:38:04 (permalink)
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    .... they wouldn't have had to try so hard with $49 last-day sales for upgrades to X2. Sales that sharp illustrate a state of desperation to some degree. 



    Or some math wizard figured X sales @$49 is better than a projected 20% of the X sales @$179.
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    Re: X2a 2013/09/04 13:48:57 (permalink)
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    .... they wouldn't have had to try so hard with $49 last-day sales for upgrades to X2. Sales that sharp illustrate a state of desperation to some degree. 



    Or some math wizard figured X sales @$49 is better than a projected 20% of the X sales @$179.



    I just think it's typical business 101.

    Offer a reduction on aged goods before the next major release hoping to attract more sales & broaden the customer base.
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    Re: X2a 2013/09/04 15:09:31 (permalink)
    Isn't that what IKM is doing with their VSTi's?
     
    Just sayin'; I mean I have them all, and T-Racks Grand CS and Amplitube and Ampeg and...
    the list goes on, or is it; The beat goes on???
    Not trying to stur up the hornet's nest or nuthin'!
     
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