sonickg
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If your looking for a new interface
If your looking for a new interface, you might want to look at the Antelope Orion, sounds quite amazing!
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Teds_Studio
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 00:39:52
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It should sound pretty good for 3 grand. But having 32 ins and outs would be pretty nice too :) .
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Razorwit
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 02:08:45
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If you're looking at one I can tell you that they sound great and play well with Sonar. A few things to know about the unit: 1. It works great via USB, but only if you keep the cable pretty short, so if you have a machine room or closet where you computer is you'll want to keep the unit in there. 2. There aren't any pre-amps included, so if that's what you're looking for it's probably the wrong unit. Also the analog I/O is all D-sub so you'll likely want a patchbay. 3. the routing is a bit limited. I run mine alongside an Aurora 16 via MADI from an RME HDSPe MADI fx so it's not a problem for me, but if you use the onboard mixer for cue mixes or whatever your options will be limited. Beyond that, it's a great unit and does work well...been pretty happy with mine. Good luck Dean
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dan le
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 02:46:29
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Hi Dean: Using the USB cnnection, can you play softsynth fairly comfortably? I mean what kind of latency you got, one way and round trip, like at 128 samples. Because I have been leery about USB latency in general. Thanks dan
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Razorwit
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 03:50:47
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Hi Dan, I use my Orion via MADI, so I can't easily test USB latency. I did do some playing with it via USB when I first got it a while back and my recollection is that it worked fine and my softsynths were perfectly usable. IIRC the latency with it via USB seemed to match up pretty well with what Antelope shows here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztptdcqXjr4&feature=share&list=UUlO-J9ik6SdPP-stEaRkNuw Dean EDIT - Also the Antelope folks say on the site "The latency performance varies between only 1 and 6.5 ms for different hardware and software configurations." There used to be a section where they gave the following numbers: Latency performance* Cubase 6.5: 2.5 ms – 3.5 ms Samplitude 12: 1 ms – 3 ms Logic 9: 2.5 ms – 6.5 ms Ableton 8: 2.2 ms – 4 ms Nuendo 5.5: 2.5 ms – 3.5 ms * All Latency times were tested between sample rates of 44.1 and 192 khz with lowest buffer setting, actual results may vary. IIRC that seems to match up fairly well with my experience under Sonar.
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WDI
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 05:43:39
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Razorwit
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 09:59:48
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Hi WDI, Yep, I had a Q10 back in the day as well and was not terribly pleased when they disappeared. That said, Antelope has been a good stable company for quite some time now, but it was certainly a consideration. Dean
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Mack
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 11:34:00
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I too was a happy aardvark direct pro owner. Sad that they went out of business, and shameful how the treated their customers!
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dan le
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 13:08:28
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Hi: Was Igor the owner of Aardvark then though? I don't think so. I think that he only works for Aardvark or a partner at best. So when the company folded, he went on on his own. I don't think we can blame him to be fair. dan
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Razorwit
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 13:14:50
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WDI
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 13:57:10
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Well I really didn't want to dog on Igor. The Q10 was cool and who knows what really happened to Aardvark.
Anyways the Orion looks pretty sweet. Perfect for 24 analog I/O to a mixer. Currently I have to use the AD converters on an Alesis HD24 when needing more than 10 analog I/O with the RME FireFace. I connect the two via Adat giving me 26 analog I/O. It works good but is kind of a convoluted process.
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Makzimia
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 14:24:07
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+1 if you can afford it, WELL worth the money. I do have to say, I want a MADI card though too. But, the difference is night and day. Oh, and I was a Q10 owner back in the day too. Disappearance of Aadvark aside, it was a great ride that while it lasted. Tony
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Razorwit
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 14:39:28
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Hi Tony, Yeah, MADI + Orion is really nice. Only downside is if you have multiple different brand converters the conversion latency can cause some phase problems. Honestly, if you don't need the additional routing options and the minor latency hit from USB isn't a problem it's probably just as well to stay with the Orion running over USB. Also, MADI out of the Orion does limit you to 96khz (unless you reduce your channel count), but that's not really a problem for most folks. OTOH, seeing 194 ins and 196 outs from my RME HDSPe MADI FX in Sonar (before you pare down the exposed I/O's) is kinda awesome :) And TotalMix really is ridiculously cool. If you have questions about MADI with the Orion let me know and I can try to help out. There are some potential speed bumps with PT10 and some MADI cards as well. Dean
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 16:05:00
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I have a couple of interfaces and what I miss on both of them are simple inserts (in/outs) on a channel for external effects. Since they each only have eight analog inputs, I have to route something from Sonar out through digital I/O, to the hardware, and back via digital I/O. Of course, this only works if the effect has digital I/O, and it only works for one thing at a time. I miss being able to plug anything from a stomp box to a rack mount processor into an audio track.
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Re: If your looking for a new interface
2013/08/27 19:47:20
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Seems rather short sighted to make this thing USB...that many inputs and you pick the slowest possible bus architecture available...
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