GARYTHEBRIDGE
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VS-700R without powered speakers
Hi,
I have just purchased the VS-700 set and was wondering if I can use the VS-700R without powered speakers. i.e. can I connect the main outs to an amplifier using XLR to RCA cables ?
Gary
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Dyonight
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Re: VS-700R without powered speakers
2013/08/30 13:49:37
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Absolutely but you would be best using 2x mono 1/4 to rca and connect the 1/4 in the SUB output. This way your signal will stay unbalanced all the way.
Be careful, cause Windows tend to set the MAIN out as default, so switch that in the Windows audio mixer (near the clock in the lower right side).
If you absolutely must use an XLR to rca, make sure the pin 3 (cold) on the XLR jack is soldered to pin 1 (ground). You can do it yourself pretty easily if you have a soldering iron and some experience or know someone who does.
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Jeff Evans
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Re: VS-700R without powered speakers
2013/08/30 16:46:55
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AN XLR or balanced TRS can be sending a high level signal out (+4 dbu) and the RCA connection is meant to be at a level of -10dBV (-8dBu approx) So there is quite a level mis match there. A better option is something like this which does all aspects of a conversion, the impedance/balanced/level conversion all in one: http://artproaudio.com/artcessories/audio_solutions/product/cleanbox_pro/ You could also build a passive attenuator into the cable between the XLR/TRS outputs and the RCA input.
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cakhaisea
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Re: VS-700R without powered speakers
2013/09/05 05:17:16
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I think Dyonight' answer is good. 
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GARYTHEBRIDGE
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Re: VS-700R without powered speakers
2013/09/06 04:22:00
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Thanks. I have decided to go with Dyonight and use 2 x mono 1/4 to RCA from the SUB output
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Crg
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Re: VS-700R without powered speakers
2013/09/15 18:09:13
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You can use XLR to RCA, but it won't work as well as XLR to TRS or XLR to XLR. It will create noise and a certain type of distortion on peaks.
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GARYTHEBRIDGE
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Re: VS-700R without powered speakers
2013/09/20 04:46:26
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I think I will eventually get some proper monitors and bypass the Hi-Fi amp altogether. But it is doing the job for the time being. It's all a matter of cashflow 
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Re: VS-700R without powered speakers
2013/09/20 15:20:00
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I Have a VS-700C w/VS-700R for sale, 7 Mos old, Perfect condition... $3100 firm. U pay to ship from NH.
richardbcar Yahoo < email me if interested
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GARYTHEBRIDGE
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Re: VS-700R without powered speakers
2013/09/23 10:46:57
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I already have the VS-700 set, I do not have any Active Monitors.
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Re: VS-700R without powered speakers
2013/10/02 21:52:11
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+4 to -10 = XLR to RCA. It's somewhat like plugging a 1/4 phone jack into a TRS jack. There's a wire missing, a path for bleed off missing. +,-, ground, rather than +,- plus ground on 2 paths. Having a separate bleed off wire as in XLR-TRS keeps certain types of capacitance and resulting build up, out of your audio signal.
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Dyonight
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Re: VS-700R without powered speakers
2013/10/04 14:06:17
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2x mono to 2x RCA is perfect.
For short distance (10 meters or less) some believe unbalanced is superior to balanced, even when you have the choice between both. Not sure why but from what I understood it takes the balancing process out of the way, so less parts in the circuits, so "cleaner". Google this if you have to. Hell even google "mastering audio unbalanced".
Pretty sure Gary is having a nice experience even if he is unbalanced.
The sub connectors accept unbalanced connections so no problems about conversion or whatever here.
For short signal path, balanced is not automatically the best choice. Ground loops are easier to cure but a well built unbalanced system will perform as well as a balanced one.
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