Helpful ReplySonar X2 upgrade

Author
tcaylor
Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 701
  • Joined: 2006/07/14 17:37:39
  • Location: Carrollton, Texas
  • Status: offline
2013/08/30 16:24:08 (permalink)

Sonar X2 upgrade

Hey,
I apologize for asking this here but I don't have much time to make a decision.  I received an email from Cakewalk to upgrade to Sonar X2 at a great price.  The problem is that my current version is 8.  Will this work for me or do I have to start over with the X2 product?  I did research this on the Cakewalk web site but didn't find it.  Maybe I missed it, but the offer expires after tomorrow.
 
thanks,
Tom

Tom

My Soundclick Page

Sonar Platinum, AMD FX-4100 Quad Core, 8GB RAM, Win 7, RME Fireface USB, UA LA-610, Dynaudio BM 5A monitors, G&L Asat Classic, Peavy Wolfgang, 1990 Strat Ultra, Alvarez PD-80SC Acoustic
#1
Brando
Max Output Level: -47.5 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 2776
  • Joined: 2003/11/06 11:47:20
  • Location: Canada
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/30 16:30:15 (permalink)
If your version of SONAR 8 is Producer, you would qualify for an upgrade price of $99 (not the $49 that X1 users would get). If it is studio, your price would be $149.
 
 SONAR X2 Producer:Site PriceDownload for SONAR X1 Producer and Production Suite Customers$49.00Download for any SONAR Producer or SONAR 1-2 XL Customers$99.00Download for any SONAR Studio or SONAR 1-2 Customers$149.00Download for any other Registered Cakewalk Customers$199.00

Brando
Cakewalk, Studio One Pro, Reaper
Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL
ASUS Prime Z370-A LGA1151, 32GB DDR4, Intel 8700K i7, 500 GB SSD, 3 x 1TB HDD, Windows 10 Pro 64
#2
tcaylor
Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 701
  • Joined: 2006/07/14 17:37:39
  • Location: Carrollton, Texas
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/30 16:31:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tcaylor 2013/08/30 16:32:07
Brando
If your version of SONAR 8 is Producer, you would qualify for an upgrade price of $99 (not the $49 that X1 users would get). If it is studio, your price would be $149.
 
 SONAR X2 Producer:Site PriceDownload for SONAR X1 Producer and Production Suite Customers$49.00Download for any SONAR Producer or SONAR 1-2 XL Customers$99.00Download for any SONAR Studio or SONAR 1-2 Customers$149.00Download for any other Registered Cakewalk Customers$199.00



Yes, I have the Producer version.  Thank you very much!

Tom

My Soundclick Page

Sonar Platinum, AMD FX-4100 Quad Core, 8GB RAM, Win 7, RME Fireface USB, UA LA-610, Dynaudio BM 5A monitors, G&L Asat Classic, Peavy Wolfgang, 1990 Strat Ultra, Alvarez PD-80SC Acoustic
#3
scook
Forum Host
  • Total Posts : 24146
  • Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
  • Location: TX
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/30 16:34:46 (permalink)
Keep in mind that X2 is not supported on XP. The quick fix was the last patch that will install on XP. The X2a patch will not install on XP.
#4
tcaylor
Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 701
  • Joined: 2006/07/14 17:37:39
  • Location: Carrollton, Texas
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/30 16:43:03 (permalink)
scook
Keep in mind that X2 is not supported on XP. The quick fix was the last patch that will install on XP. The X2a patch will not install on XP.




Hey, thanks for the information, my signature says I'm on XP Home but I've since upgraded to Windows 7, Guess I'll go fix my signature :)

Tom

My Soundclick Page

Sonar Platinum, AMD FX-4100 Quad Core, 8GB RAM, Win 7, RME Fireface USB, UA LA-610, Dynaudio BM 5A monitors, G&L Asat Classic, Peavy Wolfgang, 1990 Strat Ultra, Alvarez PD-80SC Acoustic
#5
mattplaysguitar
Max Output Level: -55.5 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1992
  • Joined: 2006/01/02 00:27:42
  • Location: Gold Coast, Australia
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/30 18:27:23 (permalink)
Also keep in mind that X3 is likely around the corner. You would expect to see promotions when that comes out too. Of course going down that route is a gamble, but something to keep in mind.


Currently recording my first album, so if you like my music, please follow me on Facebook!
http://www.facebook.com/mattlyonsmusic

www.mattlyonsmusic.com 

#6
stickman393
Max Output Level: -60 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1528
  • Joined: 2003/11/07 18:35:26
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/30 21:06:22 (permalink)
Matt's right - every time a new version is announced, there's a bunch of folks who just upgraded who complain that they weren't warned; and if only they'd known they would have waited; and that they deserve to get the latest version for nothing.
 
The next version hasn't been announced yet, but experienced folks are saying it is coming real soon now.
So, consider yourself warned.
#7
Afrodrum
Max Output Level: -79 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 559
  • Joined: 2012/10/14 15:15:24
  • Location: Warszawa
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/31 18:39:40 (permalink)
The next version hasn't been announced yet, but experienced folks are saying it is coming real soon now.
So, consider yourself warned.
 
what do you think would be better then :
1. to upgrade from X2 Studio to X3 Producer via X2 Producer
2. or directly when its released
 

Windows 10/64, Intel i7 Xeon X6575 3,07GHz, 24Gb RAM, chipset: Intel X58 Express, Kingston SSD 240Gb,  Sonar Platinum , Edirol UA-25.  (Some extra VSTs: PSP almost all/  IK - AT4, ST3, / AAS - all/ TH3 full/ +10dB/ Melodyne Editor). EVE sc205 monitors, Defil Kosmos guitar, blue lava lamp, ashtray.  And there is some great music you may find at: https://soundcloud.com/pawel-jan-1
 
 
 
 
#8
mattplaysguitar
Max Output Level: -55.5 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1992
  • Joined: 2006/01/02 00:27:42
  • Location: Gold Coast, Australia
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/31 19:20:53 (permalink)
Historically, once the new version has been announced, there are deals that typically go "buy X2 now, get x3 for free when it's released." So that's the deal you'd be waiting for. I kinda think that's a safe option as then you get two versions, one of which may be more stable on your system than the other. But no garuntee this deal will show up.

Personally, I'd wait. But that's an easy choice because I'm too busy to make music right now (planning a wedding) and don't have the cash (paying for a wedding). It depends on how patient you are and your financial situation (ie buy X2 now then buy X3 in a few months too - which is not a compulsory purchase, of course).


Currently recording my first album, so if you like my music, please follow me on Facebook!
http://www.facebook.com/mattlyonsmusic

www.mattlyonsmusic.com 

#9
AT
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 10654
  • Joined: 2004/01/09 10:42:46
  • Location: TeXaS
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/31 20:15:00 (permalink)
congradulations on the wedding, Matt, if it is you.
 
Yes, they will probably come out w/ x3 soon if the past is any indicator of performance (radio joke there).  SONAR A goes on sale before B comes out.  Then if you buy reduced price B you'll get a free upgrade to and from A.  Some people here only upgrade every other time.  But Cake will usually make exceptions to keep early upgraders happy so they get the same discount as late updaters.  But be sure and ask for it.
 
As Matt says the easiest thing to do is wait for the Buy X3 and a free upgrade from 8.5.  That way you get the best deal w/o begging.  But if it was me I'd jump on the upgrade.  Just because the above is the way they've done business in the past doesn't mean they have to give you the same deal in the future.
 
@

https://soundcloud.com/a-pleasure-dome
http://www.bnoir-film.com/  
 
there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
#10
BENT
Max Output Level: -83 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 355
  • Joined: 2013/03/25 05:40:49
  • Location: Somewhere over the Multiverse... la la la
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/31 20:21:20 (permalink)
From 8 to X series is a huge step alone without jumping to a new release with unknown’s
 
My experience.
I was a happy 8.5.3 user
Bought X1 for $99 (cheap as chips)
Days later X2 was released $99, so I bought that as well
Spent the next 6 weeks trying to get my head around it all while dealing with bugs
Made no music
My advice.
Buy X2, install free update to X2a and work with the few (known) bugs while making music
Wait till X3 (a,b or c) when the unknown’s are known (sorry, don’t mean to be negative just practical)
Make music sooner




I have empirical evidence this is true... (Bender told me!) 
Cakewalk by BandLab, Splat and other DAW's
PC = Win 10 64 Bit, i7 3770, 16Gb RAM, 256GB Samsung 2.5’ 840 PRO SATA6GB/s SSD 1, and 2 x 2Tb Internal, 
Monitors = 2 24” Samsung SA450 and 1 20” Dele
Edirol = Octa-Capture-UA1010, Quad-Capture-UA55, PCR-500,
Berringer 2 x FBC 1010 Alesis Control Pad KRK monitors
#11
robert_e_bone
Moderator
  • Total Posts : 8968
  • Joined: 2007/12/26 22:09:28
  • Location: Palatine, IL
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/31 20:27:26 (permalink)
I believe you would be quite happy with the upgrade.  For $99, moving up to X2a Producer Edition is a GREAT bargain.
 
There will most likely be later deals to get you from X2a up to whatever future release is coming out, so I would advise you to go ahead and grab this deal.
 
There is a learning curve in moving from pre-X to X2a, but I have really found my workflow to have improved, and the Pro Channel in and of itself is fabulous.
 
I don't know if you would be able to go back and download any of the X2 Producer Club content at this point in it all, but there were some really nice freebies in that, if the prior downloads are available.
 
AND, Monday is a holiday, in case you wanted to spend the entire day playing with your shiny new toys........
 
You want it, you KNOW you do, in fact you NEED it, you GOTTA have it....
 
Truthfully, it is a fabulous release.
 
Bob Bone
 

Wisdom is a giant accumulation of "DOH!"
 
Sonar: Platinum (x64), X3 (x64) 
Audio Interfaces: AudioBox 1818VSL, Steinberg UR-22
Computers: 1) i7-2600 k, 32 GB RAM, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 & 2) AMD A-10 7850 32 GB RAM Windows 10 Pro x64
Soft Synths: NI Komplete 8 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, many others
MIDI Controllers: M-Audio Axiom Pro 61, Keystation 88es
Settings: 24-Bit, Sample Rate 48k, ASIO Buffer Size 128, Total Round Trip Latency 9.7 ms  
#12
robert_e_bone
Moderator
  • Total Posts : 8968
  • Joined: 2007/12/26 22:09:28
  • Location: Palatine, IL
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/31 20:32:31 (permalink)
I agree with picking up what seems to be a pretty stable release in X2a.  We do not know when the next release of Sonar is coming, or what will be in it (or removed, for that matter), nor do we know if there are going to be any unforeseen show stoppers (although the Cakewalk folks very quickly had a quick fix out there for some initial issues with X2).
 
Anyways, there are really no showstoppers present in X2a.  There are some bugs and some annoyances, but it is really a good jump to make to go to it.
 
You will also have the ability to retain your current installation of Sonar, and I recommend you keep it.  It will happily co-exist with the X2a release, and you may find it easier to work with some existing projects in 8, versus X2a, and keeping both releases gives you the most flexibility.
 
I also recommend you install BOTH a 32-bit and a 64-bit version of X2a.
 
Bob Bone
 

Wisdom is a giant accumulation of "DOH!"
 
Sonar: Platinum (x64), X3 (x64) 
Audio Interfaces: AudioBox 1818VSL, Steinberg UR-22
Computers: 1) i7-2600 k, 32 GB RAM, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 & 2) AMD A-10 7850 32 GB RAM Windows 10 Pro x64
Soft Synths: NI Komplete 8 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, many others
MIDI Controllers: M-Audio Axiom Pro 61, Keystation 88es
Settings: 24-Bit, Sample Rate 48k, ASIO Buffer Size 128, Total Round Trip Latency 9.7 ms  
#13
Paul P
Max Output Level: -48.5 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 2685
  • Joined: 2012/12/08 17:15:47
  • Location: Montreal
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/08/31 22:13:05 (permalink)
I'm counting on there being an X2b.
 

Sonar Platinum [2017.10], Win7U x64 sp1, Xeon E5-1620 3.6 GHz, Asus P9X79WS, 16 GB ECC, 128gb SSD, HD7950, Mackie Blackjack
#14
mattplaysguitar
Max Output Level: -55.5 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1992
  • Joined: 2006/01/02 00:27:42
  • Location: Gold Coast, Australia
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/09/01 01:58:37 (permalink)
AT
congradulations on the wedding, Matt, if it is you.
 
 



Thanks dude! Give me 30 years and hopefully I'll have a daughter and her wedding to pay for :) She can do all the darn planning though!! Never again!!! lol


Currently recording my first album, so if you like my music, please follow me on Facebook!
http://www.facebook.com/mattlyonsmusic

www.mattlyonsmusic.com 

#15
mattplaysguitar
Max Output Level: -55.5 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1992
  • Joined: 2006/01/02 00:27:42
  • Location: Gold Coast, Australia
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/09/01 01:59:44 (permalink)
Paul P
I'm counting on there being an X2b.
 




Your faith is strong, but possibly misguided, young one.


Currently recording my first album, so if you like my music, please follow me on Facebook!
http://www.facebook.com/mattlyonsmusic

www.mattlyonsmusic.com 

#16
doncolga
Max Output Level: -60 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1519
  • Joined: 2006/01/03 17:15:48
  • Location: Statesboro, GA USA
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/09/01 02:01:44 (permalink)
I've been very happy moving to X2A from X1.  To me the $50 buck2 was worth getting Rapture, much less the other stuff in X2.

HP Z220 Workstation I7 3770, 8 GB RAM, Windows 10, Sonar Platinum, RME Multiface II via PCIe, JBL 4326 w/sub, AvanTone MixCubes
#17
McMoore11
Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 56
  • Joined: 2011/09/27 13:01:29
  • Location: Here
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/09/01 08:00:50 (permalink)
Since upgrading to X2, more than half of my previous projects created in X1 will not load in X2.
'SONARPDR.EXE is not responding'.
Yay.
Is there a patch or ointment for that?

It takes one to know one, and vice versa.
 
www.wetdogmusic.com
www.soundcloud.com/markmoore-1

Sonar Platinum running on a AMD-A10 7700K 3.40 GHz, 32 gig RAM, Windows 10 with 2- 1 Terabyte externals. Black Lion pres and Word Clock into BL modded Motu 896mk3.  Shure KSM44 and Neumann U67.  Dynaudio BM5 with sub and Blue Sky monitors, Evidence Audio cabling.  Auralex treatment.  Kona coffee.  Michigan craft IPAs.


#18
RickJP909
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 155
  • Joined: 2013/02/07 18:40:33
  • Location: London, UK
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/09/01 08:17:10 (permalink)
Here's my take...
 
I saw the half-price upgrade & as it's only £39 for us in the UK, I thought this was a bargain & a cheap way of "staying in the game"!  I previously had bought Pro 8.5 with the free upgrade offer to X1 which I took!  I then took advantage of the Expanded upgrade when that was on offer.
 
So I thought about this offer carefully & looked at how much (going by previous offers of course) an upgrade could potentially cost me if I skipped this version & worked out that it would be more than double the current offer.  If you look at how much the upgrade is now from pre-X1 to X2, that'll give you an indication as to the minimum it's likely to cost skipping a version with a special offer of course.
 
So after some consideration, on the above basis I decided that £39 was "as cheap as chips" & so I parted with my cash!  Even if I don't use X2, it kind of guarantees a cheap upgrade path for the next version!
 
Maybe I've miscalculated it somewhere & got it all wrong but I expect if I have, someone will tell me shortly... 

Synth Hardware Aficionado!  Moog Sub 37, Roland MKS-70/XV-5080/JV-1000/JP-8000/JP-8080/Boutique JP-08, Oberheim Matrix-1000, Korg EX-8000/MS2000B, Novation Super Bass Station/A-Station/Drum Station 2/Supernova 2, E-MU Orbit-3, Edirol UM-550/880, Lexicon MX300, Akai MPD226, Mackie ProFX22, M-Audio Delta Soundcard.  PC: AMD FX-6350, 8GB RAM, Samsung 840 EVO SSD, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, Sonar X2a Producer/Platinum (32-bit).
#19
daveny5
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 16934
  • Joined: 2003/11/06 09:54:36
  • Location: North Carolina
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/09/01 08:17:19 (permalink)
McMoore11
Since upgrading to X2, more than half of my previous projects created in X1 will not load in X2.
'SONARPDR.EXE is not responding'.
Yay.
Is there a patch or ointment for that?


Do you have X2a? 


Projects from X1 should load in X2 unless perhaps you are running Windows XP which is not supported for X2. Perhaps you have some faulty plug-in that's causing the problem. In that case, load the project in Safe mode and figure out which plug-in is the culprit. 
 
 
 
 

Dave
Computer: Intel i7, ASROCK H170M, 16GB/5TB+, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, Sonar Platinum, TASCAM US-16x08, Cakewalk UM-3G MIDI I/F
Instruments: SL-880 Keyboard controller, Korg 05R/W, Korg N1R, KORG Wavestation EX
Axes: Fender Stratocaster, Line6 Variax 300, Ovation Acoustic, Takamine Nylon Acoustic, Behringer GX212 amp, Shure SM-58 mic, Rode NT1 condenser mic.
Outboard: Mackie 1402-VLZ mixer, TC Helicon VoiceLive 2, Digitech Vocalist WS EX, PODXTLive, various stompboxes and stuff. 
Controllers: Korg nanoKONTROL, Wacom Bamboo Touchpad
#20
robert_e_bone
Moderator
  • Total Posts : 8968
  • Joined: 2007/12/26 22:09:28
  • Location: Palatine, IL
  • Status: offline
Re: Sonar X2 upgrade 2013/09/01 09:27:08 (permalink)
daveny5
McMoore11
Since upgrading to X2, more than half of my previous projects created in X1 will not load in X2.
'SONARPDR.EXE is not responding'.
Yay.
Is there a patch or ointment for that?


Do you have X2a? 


Projects from X1 should load in X2 unless perhaps you are running Windows XP which is not supported for X2. Perhaps you have some faulty plug-in that's causing the problem. In that case, load the project in Safe mode and figure out which plug-in is the culprit. 
 
 
 
 


Howdy and good morning.
 
X2 itself WILL load and run on a machine running XP, BUT the X2A update will NOT.  X2a requires a minimum operating system level of Windows 7 at a maintenance level of Service Pack 1 to even install.
 
If McMoore11 is indeed running X2, on a machine that DOES have Windows 7 with SP1, then by all means the X2a update SHOULD be applied.  X2a addresses more than 250 bugs, and is absolutely more stable than the base X2 product.
 
IF X2a is not an option, due to having XP, try loading the X1 projects in Safe mode, without loading any 32-bit plugins, to see if they will open that way.  IF you can get them open in that fashion, then it may be one or more 32-bit plugins not behaving nicely through the BitBridge component.  (None of this applies if you are running a 32-bit installation of Sonar, as BitBridge would not be running - it exists to allow 32-bit plugins to run in 64-bit Sonar installations).  If it is indeed one or more of the 32-bit plugins causing the problems, try swapping them out for 64-bit versions OR install a 32-bit version of Sonar and work with those projects in a 32-bit environment, where BitBridge would not be needed.
 
I hope any of the above helps, Mr McMoore11 (and anybody else), 
 
Bob Bone

Wisdom is a giant accumulation of "DOH!"
 
Sonar: Platinum (x64), X3 (x64) 
Audio Interfaces: AudioBox 1818VSL, Steinberg UR-22
Computers: 1) i7-2600 k, 32 GB RAM, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 & 2) AMD A-10 7850 32 GB RAM Windows 10 Pro x64
Soft Synths: NI Komplete 8 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, many others
MIDI Controllers: M-Audio Axiom Pro 61, Keystation 88es
Settings: 24-Bit, Sample Rate 48k, ASIO Buffer Size 128, Total Round Trip Latency 9.7 ms  
#21
Jump to:
© 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1