Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-)

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2013/09/08 06:19:07 (permalink)

Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-)

 
Inspired by the recent infestation of fake watch spammers, specifically the 'Omega' thread, I thought it might be nice to screw the back off my forty+ year old Omega Genève and take a few shots of the movement.
 
Here's the bumph from Omega's website:
 

 
 
I was given this watch by my wonderful grandad (who also left me his 18 carat gold signet ring engraved with his initials, which I've worn with pride since he died in 1980).
 
The watch is a beautiful piece of mechanical engineering in its own right, and its sentimental value means it's been well looked after (although it's now overdue a new front cover). I only wear it on special occasions, but I wind it up every so often to keep the movement in good order.
 
Anyway, here are a few pics for you. For the technically minded, all shots were taken on my Canon EOS 600D + 50mm f1.8 (set to f22) using various combinations of my Polaroid automatic macro extension tubes. Lighting was provided by my LED ring-light. The RAW files were developed and converted to .tif format in Adobe Lightroom 5. Final processing and conversion to 'jpeg was done in Photoshop Elements 11.
 
 
The front:
 

 
 
The back:
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
post edited by SteveStrummerUK - 2013/09/08 06:27:27

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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 06:27:52 (permalink)
    Isn't there supposed to be an Orange in there somewhere?
     
     
     
    Incredible photos Steve.
     
    Can anyone technically minded explain what the jewels are for?
     
    I thought "17 jewels" meant it got really hot inside.
     
    best regards,
    mike


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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 06:28:53 (permalink)
    Oh yeah, what did you use for lighting?
     
    It's nice lighting.
     
     
     
     
     
     
    arrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh..... that's 2 down and the day has just begun.
     


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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 08:28:19 (permalink)
    Some nice macro images there, Strummy.  

    Should auld acquaintance be forgot--hey, who the hell are you guys?  
     
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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 09:28:07 (permalink)
    mike_mccue
     
    Can anyone technically minded explain what the jewels are for?
     
    I thought "17 jewels" meant it got really hot inside.
     
    best regards,
    mike



    Mike,
     
    If you notice from the pics, the Jewels are all on "Pivot" points (i.e. on points that spin or turn)
    The reason for this is the fact that the jewels will not wear out like the metal would from 
    constant "pivoting" or "spinning", nor will they heat as much as if these were Metal pivots. (i.e. Bushings)
    The end result is that the Mechanisms will last far longer, hence, why Clocks or Watches
    with Jewel movements are more expensive then those without.
    post edited by cclarry - 2013/09/08 09:38:03


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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 09:39:17 (permalink)
    Thank you Larry,
     
    I guess that part that confuses me is that idea that minerals usually display the characteristic of having "facets" along the planes of cleavage and so it's hard for me to imagine that rotation can be as smooth as with a high grade ball bearing.
     
    I understand that some minerals are harder on the moh hardness scale than most metals... so it seems like the jewels would wear down the metal the way it does when similar material is cracked into small granulated compounds and turned into grinding polish or "sand" paper.
     
     
    I am not trying to argue... just trying to take my understanding to a level where I understand the context effectively.
     
     
    best regards,
    mike
     
     
     


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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 11:23:15 (permalink)
    McQ said cleavage.
     
    TeeHee!
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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 11:24:56 (permalink)
    Those are wonderful pics Straummy.
     
    The olderst thing I own besides my johnson is a pic of my dad taken when he was about 16.
     
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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 12:18:32 (permalink)
    Thanks gentlemen
     
    Mike this is the cheap and cheerful ringlight I've got - NEEWER 48 LED Ring Light
     
    It's handy because it comes with a mains adapter, although it can also run on batteries. You get a range of adapter rings so it can be attached to a variety of lenses.
     
    The best feature is being able to select just half the LEDs (either right or left) to add shadows and depth. The full setting is good for even lighting, although it can leave the image looking a bit flat.
     
    My next purchase will definitely be a ringflash though. Having to stop down to small apertures to get any depth of field means the more light you can get on the subject the better.
     
    Incidentally, these are the extension rings I bought - Polaroid Auto Focus DG Macro Extension Tube Set
     
    These do feel really well made, and keep the electronic connections between the camera and lens, so auto focus and exposure work as per usual.
     
    So what do you chaps want next - I've got some steam trains and a butterfly called Gary in the can

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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 12:24:51 (permalink)
    Wiki explains that the jewels are only used in extremely low force applications and offer a bare minimum coefficient of friction. In these applications the functionality and consistency is prolonged so that the mechanism remains accurate for years and years.
     
    I haven't found much info about mineral facets but I guess they just don't come in to play when the material is used as a bearing.
     
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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 12:28:33 (permalink)
    Thanks Steve,
     I think my wife will be getting a surprise real soon. She has been asking about getting some macro gear for her.
     
    best regards,
    mike
     
     
    SteveStrummerUK
    Thanks gentlemen
     
    Mike this is the cheap and cheerful ringlight I've got - NEEWER 48 LED Ring Light
     
    It's handy because it comes with a mains adapter, although it can also run on batteries. You get a range of adapter rings so it can be attached to a variety of lenses.
     
    The best feature is being able to select just half the LEDs (either right or left) to add shadows and depth. The full setting is good for even lighting, although it can leave the image looking a bit flat.
     
    My next purchase will definitely be a ringflash though. Having to stop down to small apertures to get any depth of field means the more light you can get on the subject the better.
     
    Incidentally, these are the extension rings I bought - Polaroid Auto Focus DG Macro Extension Tube Set
     
    These do feel really well made, and keep the electronic connections between the camera and lens, so auto focus and exposure work as per usual.
     
    So what do you chaps want next - I've got some steam trains and a butterfly called Gary in the can






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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 13:13:27 (permalink)
    mike_mccue
    Wiki explains that the jewels are only used in extremely low force applications and offer a bare minimum coefficient of friction. In these applications the functionality and consistency is prolonged so that the mechanism remains accurate for years and years.
     
    I haven't found much info about mineral facets but I guess they just don't come in to play when the material is used as a bearing.
     
    best regards,
    mike



    I think that's what I said....

    Friction creates heat....heat causes things to break down....if they were metal they'd wear out faster and
    accuracy would dwindle...since Jewels don't get as hot (have less friction) and provide better slip,
    they last longer, hence the increase in value and life of the mechanism....


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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 13:20:23 (permalink)
    mike_mccue
    Thanks Steve,
     I think my wife will be getting a surprise real soon. She has been asking about getting some macro gear for her.
     




    The genuine Canon ringflash looks like an amazing bit of kit Mike.
     
    And of course, you'd be able to borrow it whenever
     
    If I had a bit more of an engineering/woodworking type brain on me, I would definitely build myself some kind of jig to hold both camera and subject, and maybe lighting. It seems that having the camera/tripod separate makes it very difficult to get perfectly perpendicular to the subject. I was actually finding it easier to move the watch forwards and back to get it in focus range.
     

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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 13:22:33 (permalink)
    I agree Larry. That's what you said. :-) Sometimes, I am denser than coal.
     
    I know a bit about bigger bearings and such and just didn't appreciate how these jewel bearings were functioning more like bushings than some sort of micro roller bearing.
     
    :-)
     
    I'm still curious about how they get around the cleavage plane issue, because that occurs at the molecular level and so it seems, to me, like it would be very difficult to get a perfectly round circle out of a material that is pre disposed to make a perfectly proportioned polygon.
     
    best regards,
    mike
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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 16:06:44 (permalink)
    Nice pics!

     
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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 17:49:03 (permalink)
     
    Cheers Craig.
     
    Remember we chatted a while back about 'focus-stacking' images to blend the sharpest parts of each one to increase the depth of field.
     
    Well, I knew my PS Elements couldn't do this, but I bought a neat little plug-in (Elements XXL) which actually has this feature (as per screenshot below).
     
    The really handy thing about XXL is that it actually integrates into Elements, and all the features appear in the regular Elements menus; you can choose to highlight them blue.
     
    I can't wait to give this a try
     

     
     

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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/08 18:23:32 (permalink)
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    I agree Larry. That's what you said. :-) Sometimes, I am denser than coal.
     
    I know a bit about bigger bearings and such and just didn't appreciate how these jewel bearings were functioning more like bushings than some sort of micro roller bearing.
     
    :-)
     
    I'm still curious about how they get around the cleavage plane issue, because that occurs at the molecular level and so it seems, to me, like it would be very difficult to get a perfectly round circle out of a material that is pre disposed to make a perfectly proportioned polygon.
     
    best regards,
    mike



    That much I'm not quite sure of...
    I know that they usually use Ruby or Sapphire for the Jewels...
    And any quality Watch will also have a Sapphire Crystal...
    Sapphire is EXTREMELY scratch resistant...

    With my mega gigantic hands, I can't even begin to imagine how they
    get those Gems perfectly round to fit inside a gear that's the size of
    a pencil tip.....and then drill those microscopic 
    holes in the gems and then feed tiny little axles through them....
    and then attach them to tiny little gears, etc....I know these guys must have the patience of the Saints to do it...
    I'm sure modern machines can do this now...but this was all done by hand for centuries...

    Being a Mechanical Engineer most of my life...I find it completely fascinating...


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    Re: Not a fake Omega watch - and yes, this is a wind-up :-) 2013/09/09 08:51:16 (permalink)
    Am I the only one who noticed that Strummy needs to clean his watch???

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    Am I the only one who noticed that Strummy needs to clean his watch???



    He doesn't have time for that.

     
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    Am I the only one who noticed that Strummy needs to clean his watch???



    He doesn't have time for that.


    I'll second that motion.
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    Am I the only one who noticed that Strummy needs to clean his watch???



    He doesn't have time for that.


    funniest post by craigb (ITHRN) EVVVA!

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