X2a Piano roll , midi and audio-track recording / editing disaster !

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2013/09/16 05:33:11 (permalink)

X2a Piano roll , midi and audio-track recording / editing disaster !

X2 is a disaster .  .
When i try to edit midi notes with the snap to grid activated
and copying and pasting, it will not snap to the grid anyway, and it turns itself off !
I need to activate it again and try to hit the snap point where i want the mididata pasted.

Also when recording with softsynth, midi seems to be a bit off, atleast at the next miditrack !

There's also problems when recording audio, somtimes half recording or off in timing.

This is a complete disaster, you ask me... !
X2 has became more or less useless

Im no hater, but i just had to say this, because it is a fact..
post edited by Soundblend - 2013/09/16 10:40:59
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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 05:58:12 (permalink)
    Computer specs please troll.

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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 07:16:16 (permalink)
    please, be aware of the changes from x1 - x2.
     
     

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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 07:19:32 (permalink)
    Is this a rant or do you want some help?
     
    If the latter post up your specs including which version of X2 you are running (i.e have you installed X2a)?
     
    There could be many solutions to your problem(s) if we know more.

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    Re: X2a Piano roll , Midi and audiotrack recording Disaster ! 2013/09/16 07:28:29 (permalink)
    Soundblend
    X2 is a disaster .  .
    When i try to edit midi notes with the snap to grid activated
    and copying and pasting, it will not snap to the grid anyway, and it turns itself off !
    I need to activate it again and try to hit the snap point where i want the mididata pasted.

    Also when recording with softsynth, midi seems to be a bit off, atleast at the next miditrack !

    There's also problems when recording audio, somtimes half recording or off in timing.

    This is a complete disaster, you ask me... !
    X2 has became more or less useless

    Im no hater, but i just had to say this, because it is a fact..


    and you are running Win 8 preview with 2Gb of ram.  Your ram needs to be 8 Gb or higher. 

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    And away we go!
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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 07:42:43 (permalink)
    WDI
    Computer specs please troll.


    Don't even bother.
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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 07:42:51 (permalink)
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    Computer specs please troll.


    Don't even bother.
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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 07:54:14 (permalink)
    Lets say that i could run perfectly well X1b on the same computer without any of those problems.
    This is not computer related, but software related problem ( sonar ) itself...

    I have email'd Cakewalk about 14 hour's ago, just a short message, cause i think they
    are well familiar with all those issues
    Due to all threads that have been here on the forums, and asking when there will be
    an uppdate to X2b.

    I also told that that i cant afford a new DAW ( X3 ) now.
    So i really hope they will have an uppdate soon..

    And yes i have the X2a uppdate installed...
    post edited by Soundblend - 2013/09/16 08:16:40
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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 07:57:14 (permalink)
    Just saw your specs......2gb RAM on Windows 8 Preview 64 bit?
     
    I'm afraid you are asking for trouble with all kinds of issues.

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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 08:01:08 (permalink)
    As i said in the post above.....

    X1b , was running completely fine, without any issues at all, and i mean NO ISSUES at all.
    On the same computer and ram etc...

    This post is not my intention to starting another way to drown Cakewalk into the bottomless pit.
    But if there should be a workaround, i surely want to know about it.

    About the amount of ram i have on the computer, i can agree partially
    cause i do not run any Sample librarys, who would require more ram.
    More ram would of course be nice,but not a requirement to have a program working
    that was X1b an good example on.....

    Of course Win 8 Preview is not " stable " enought, but as i said, it worked great running X1b.
    so why should not X2a do the same !!

    Thanks

    Jan S.


    post edited by Soundblend - 2013/09/16 10:22:28
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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 09:09:31 (permalink)
    Because X2a is different to X1b

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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 10:23:04 (permalink)
    yes it's X2a 

    I must admit then, Cakewalk has had a good daw all the way to X1.

    I am sure they will release a update for X2a i do not think they will let us down on this one , even if we have been jerks
    and complaining a lot on this forums about it. 
    post edited by Soundblend - 2013/09/16 10:34:22
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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 10:40:29 (permalink)
    Soundblend
    Of course Win 8 Preview is not " stable " enought, but as i said, it worked great running X1b.
    so why should not X2a do the same !!
    Thanks

    Jan S.



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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 11:19:15 (permalink)
    Kalle Rantaaho
    Because every new program version, be it operating system or other, tends to require more resources and resource related "gimmicks" than the previous one. Teething problems/real bugs aside. The few exeptions make the rule. 


    Yes that is true, making to many changes in a program at once, will mostly result in bug's
    That is why i belive it is always better to do minor updates at a time, and do not implement to mutch
    then it will be easier to track down and fix it.
    When it is fixed, then they can add a new feature after.

    Usually companies uses gimmicks to get attention / sales on a product, not always thinking
    what benefits the user most. 
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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 12:35:39 (permalink)
    For your first issue, check the X2 help since there were changes in how snap is handled; snap intensity, Smart Grid, landmarks, etc.  Definitely worth a look, and probably not RAM related (though the OS isn't out of the question).
     
    As far as sync and recording issues go, I'd imagine it's the OS more than anything. Even though 2GB is the minimum for X2, not sure about Win8.   Perhaps you just got lucky that X1 worked as well as it did..  I mean, it does predates Windows 8!

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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 12:56:21 (permalink)
    None of your issues is experienced by the great majority of X2a users. Ergo, they are all due to configuration or interoperability issues with your hardware/drivers/OS or the particular project files you're working with. Different versions of SONAR get their own config files, and it's quite common for them to behave differently if not configured identically. There can also be project-specific issues that need to be considered. Specifically, there can be issues with running older projects and new projects created using old templates in newer versions. If you can't reproduce these issues with a new project started from the Normal template in X2a, I would suggest you look into that possibility. If you can, show us the relevant SONAR and project settings for each issue, and we'll help you get to the bottom of it, including confirming any bonafide, reproducible bugs.
     
    P.S. Limiting yourself to one or two precisely described issues per post is always helpful.
     
     

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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 13:09:33 (permalink)
    My mother had a computer with 2GB RAM running Windows XP. It worked fine for about a year. Then all of a sudden, it slowed to a crawl - so slow it was useless. I couldn't understand why because it had always worked fine and she didn't install any programs, but it was clear Windows was paging a lot to the hard drive.
     
    What happened was all the updates to Windows, Explorer, and other programs had accumulated over time to where 2GB of RAM was no longer enough. As soon as I installed an extra 2GB of RAM, it went back to working perfectly again.
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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/16 21:00:36 (permalink)
    "Computer specs please troll."
     
    expressing frustration on a public forum board and then interacting with it to find a solution, like nearly everyone on here has done at one time or another, qualifies as "troll" how exactly?
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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/18 00:38:08 (permalink)
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    "Computer specs please troll."
     
    expressing frustration on a public forum board and then interacting with it to find a solution, like nearly everyone on here has done at one time or another, qualifies as "troll" how exactly?


    I'd have to agree.
     
    Seems a tad harsh & a bit uncalled for.
     
    Especially with so many of us swimming in this sea of X2a issues, [mutliple known issues], lack of communication, [absolute dead silence about any updates - even when the Mods & Admins chime in once in a blue moon], & no further updates since the one & only 'a', [unprecedented for Cake].
     
    I think most of us have felt that type of frustration & taken a swipe at Cake on here at one time or another - and justifiably so it would seem.
     
     
     
     



     
     
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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/18 02:20:18 (permalink)
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    Keysman"Computer specs please troll." expressing frustration on a public forum board and then interacting with it to find a solution, like nearly everyone on here has done at one time or another, qualifies as "troll" how exactly?

    I'd have to agree. Seems a tad harsh & a bit uncalled for. Especially with so many of us swimming in this sea of X2a issues, [mutliple known issues], lack of communication, [absolute dead silence about any updates - even when the Mods & Admins chime in once in a blue moon], & no further updates since the one & only 'a', [unprecedented for Cake].  I think most of us have felt that type of frustration & taken a swipe at Cake on here at one time or another - and justifiably so it would seem.    


    Wasn't meant to be serious. Somehow the :) didn't make in the quotes.

    Was just trying to beat the usual 50 questions need to be answered so we can help you type post.

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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/18 05:39:01 (permalink)
    I also have another question regarding recording an audio track !

    When i record a vocal, it will record ok, then i delete the vocal, cause i am not satisfied
    with the take and re enable the recordig and record again
    after several attempt, when activating record enable, maybe for the ( 5th time, this is just an example )
    and hit R and record, the audio start to stutter, while recording.
     what causes this ?

    When this happen i need to reload the project again, and then it's all fine to record again !!

    Sometimes i have encountered a half lengt recording of what i do on a take
    but this do not happen often, but it can sometime..

    anyone else have encountered this problem !
    any solution ?
    post edited by Soundblend - 2013/09/18 05:48:54
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    Re: X2a Piano roll 2013/09/18 13:45:41 (permalink)
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    after several attempt, when activating record enable, maybe for the ( 5th time, this is just an example )
    and hit R and record, the audio start to stutter, while recording.
    what causes this ?

     
    That kind of issue is going to involve your interface, drivers and audio config settings in SONAR.
     

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