redbarchetta
Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
- Total Posts : 534
- Joined: 2013/02/16 21:01:12
- Location: Portland Oregon
- Status: offline
Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
All, I see that X3 comes with Addictive Drums now. I don't know anything about them but gather that they would be considered a competitor to Toontrack's Superior Drummer. I'm curious here, does anyone have any experience with both and which one is the overall better package? I already own Toon's Superior Drummer. Thanks all.
Rick - Sofware Engineer by trade, Rock Star God wannabe Sonar X3 Producer Roland Octa-Capture M-Audio Fast Track Ultra Boss DR-880 Boss GT100 Line 6 Pod X3 Yamaha HS 50M Focusrite VRM Box Audio-Technica ATH M-50 Various guitars and amps
|
cclarry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 20964
- Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 19:27:25
(permalink)
Superior Drummer is better if you like to do a lot of tweaking and playing with the settings (which you can also do in AD) I, personally, use AD as my GO TO....I can get a great sound relatively quickly, and get on with my work....the ADpaks are far less expensive then those of SD....and AD loads relatively quickly and is less taxing the system...The downside of AD is that they don't have anywhere near the Addons that SD does.... That being said...it's down to personal preference...and how much you really want to do...
post edited by cclarry - 2013/09/28 19:51:26
|
redbarchetta
Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
- Total Posts : 534
- Joined: 2013/02/16 21:01:12
- Location: Portland Oregon
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 19:31:07
(permalink)
Can you use the MIDI packs from Superior Drummer and use them in Addictive Drums and vice versa
Rick - Sofware Engineer by trade, Rock Star God wannabe Sonar X3 Producer Roland Octa-Capture M-Audio Fast Track Ultra Boss DR-880 Boss GT100 Line 6 Pod X3 Yamaha HS 50M Focusrite VRM Box Audio-Technica ATH M-50 Various guitars and amps
|
cclarry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 20964
- Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 19:36:32
(permalink)
I do...
What you have to do is drag the MIDI onto the track..then change the Instrument... Be aware that the drum maps are different though...so that may be an issue... if you don't mind doing some editing, or setting up your own maps...then it's no big deal (to me)
I do the same between all my keyboard programs too...makes life easy for me...
|
Grem
Max Output Level: -19.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5562
- Joined: 2005/06/28 09:26:32
- Location: Baton Rouge Area
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 19:39:41
(permalink)
I would say yes, if you know where to find them. But some midi clips have certain info for the particular drum program it was meant for.
But in the end, it's just midi info and can be used and manipulated to your needs.
Grem Michael Music PC i7 2600K; 64gb Ram; 3 256gb SSD, System, Samples, Audio; 1TB & 2TB Project Storage; 2TB system BkUp; RME FireFace 400; Win 10 Pro 64; CWbBL 64, Home PCAMD FX 6300; 8gb Ram; 256 SSD sys; 2TB audio/samples; Realtek WASAPI; Win 10 Home 64; CWbBL 64 Surface Pro 3Win 10 i7 8gb RAM; CWbBL 64
|
WallyG
Max Output Level: -74 dBFS
- Total Posts : 833
- Joined: 2013/05/03 11:37:52
- Location: Arizona
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 19:46:08
(permalink)
redbarchetta All, I see that X3 comes with Addictive Drums now. I don't know anything about them but gather that they would be considered a competitor to Toontrack's Superior Drummer. I'm curious here, does anyone have any experience with both and which one is the overall better package? I already own Toon's Superior Drummer. Thanks all.
I also have Superior Drummer and have taken a casual look at Addictive Drums. I just downloaded the software today and haven't made an AB comparision as far as sounds, but I personally like the interface for Addictive vs Superior. Looks like they have the about the same features. Time will tell. Walt
Roland Jupiter 80, Roland D50, Roland Integra 7, Roland BK-7m, Yamaha Montage 6, ARP Odyssey, Excelsior Continental Artist, Roland FR-8X, 1967 Fender Jaguar, Fender Strat, Fender 1965 Twin Reverb reissue, Selmer Trumpet, Akai EWI, Studio One 4 Professional, Melodyne Studio 4, Behringer X-Touch, RME Fireface UCX, MOTU MIDI Express XT - ADK Pro Audio Hex Xtreme 6 Core i7 4.5GHz, 64GB, 480GB SS, 3 X 3TB Hard Drives, Win 10, 2 X 27" & 1X 46" Monitors, My WEB site - www.gontowski.com/music
|
cclarry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 20964
- Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 19:54:11
(permalink)
I love the XLN Audio Interfaces....they always look elegant... AD has an awesome interface..and sounds really good...
I wish AK had the included MIDI and MIDI Packs and Player Piano view that EZKeys has... but soundwise AK is far better....
|
redbarchetta
Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
- Total Posts : 534
- Joined: 2013/02/16 21:01:12
- Location: Portland Oregon
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 20:09:48
(permalink)
Well, guess I can judge for myself, I just made the X3 Upgrade purchase. Downloading now.
Rick - Sofware Engineer by trade, Rock Star God wannabe Sonar X3 Producer Roland Octa-Capture M-Audio Fast Track Ultra Boss DR-880 Boss GT100 Line 6 Pod X3 Yamaha HS 50M Focusrite VRM Box Audio-Technica ATH M-50 Various guitars and amps
|
cclarry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 20964
- Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 20:16:50
(permalink)
redbarchetta Well, guess I can judge for myself, I just made the X3 Upgrade purchase. Downloading now.
Red, Don't know if you have it or not (or even care) but there is FREE verision of Addictive Keys that has 49 keys of the Grand... I highly recommend it..especially for FREE...
|
redbarchetta
Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
- Total Posts : 534
- Joined: 2013/02/16 21:01:12
- Location: Portland Oregon
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 20:20:44
(permalink)
I might check into it, but to be honest, I'm one of those "Guitar Player Guys" who like fancy toys and just want a fancy daw. At best, i will be recording myself and composing some of my own music. Right now, no plans to do any professional money making ventures.
Rick - Sofware Engineer by trade, Rock Star God wannabe Sonar X3 Producer Roland Octa-Capture M-Audio Fast Track Ultra Boss DR-880 Boss GT100 Line 6 Pod X3 Yamaha HS 50M Focusrite VRM Box Audio-Technica ATH M-50 Various guitars and amps
|
cclarry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 20964
- Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 20:36:41
(permalink)
redbarchetta I might check into it, but to be honest, I'm one of those "Guitar Player Guys" who like fancy toys and just want a fancy daw. At best, i will be recording myself and composing some of my own music. Right now, no plans to do any professional money making ventures.
That's the beauty of it..you can add piano (really nice sounding piano) to your compositions.. and it's FREE...nothing to lose...LOL
|
redbarchetta
Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
- Total Posts : 534
- Joined: 2013/02/16 21:01:12
- Location: Portland Oregon
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 20:50:17
(permalink)
I dunno man... Piano just does not belong in 80's head banging music  But there is an ambient side to me as well... Perhaps it would be great for something like that.
Rick - Sofware Engineer by trade, Rock Star God wannabe Sonar X3 Producer Roland Octa-Capture M-Audio Fast Track Ultra Boss DR-880 Boss GT100 Line 6 Pod X3 Yamaha HS 50M Focusrite VRM Box Audio-Technica ATH M-50 Various guitars and amps
|
jamesyoyo
Max Output Level: -40.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3460
- Joined: 2007/09/08 17:50:10
- Location: Factory Yoyo Prods Ltd.
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 20:57:04
(permalink)
I had AD first, and it is so creative in the sounds and the midi patterns. However, the SD kits are just meatier and cut through a mix better, especially the kick and snare. I actually prefer the cymbals in AD over SD.
|
dke
Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
- Total Posts : 724
- Joined: 2007/07/07 15:17:51
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 21:07:13
(permalink)
I like AD & BFD Eco a lot more than I do Superior 2 or EZDrummer. No question SD is good, but I find the others sound just as good IMO, and they are easier to use and less demanding on the system. Dan
Sonar Platinum ( x64), Windows 10 x64, HP Envy i5 2.9GHZ, 8GB, Tascam 4x4 USB, BX5a Monitors.
|
codamedia
Max Output Level: -67 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1185
- Joined: 2005/01/24 09:58:10
- Location: Winnipeg Canada
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 22:18:55
(permalink)
SD, AD, BFD - These are all great products and any move is a sideways move. EZ is a more basic/simpler system, but still a very good product. Whatever you are most comfortable with is all that will matter. It never hurts to have them all :)
Don't fix it in the mix ... Fix it in the take! Desktop: Win 7 Pro 64 Bit , ASUS MB w/Intel Chipset, INTEL Q9300 Quad Core, 2.5 GHz, 8 GB RAM, ATI 5450 Video Laptop: Windows 7 Pro, i5, 8 Gig Ram Hardware: Presonus FP10 (Firepod), FaderPort, M-Audio Axiom 49, Mackie 1202 VLZ, POD X3 Live, Variax 600, etc... etc...
|
aleef
Max Output Level: -82 dBFS
- Total Posts : 431
- Joined: 2006/09/14 20:02:26
- Location: la/ca
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 22:26:45
(permalink)
i dont know what AD sounds like now. But Toontrack were miles ahead as far as sound. Most of the time i hate Big 80s processed drum sounds. I like classic R&B and Jazz Drumming.
Intel i7 3820 3.6 GHz ASUS Sabertooth X79 16Gb SonarX2PE ProTools 11 RME HDSP9632
|
Geo524
Max Output Level: -78 dBFS
- Total Posts : 647
- Joined: 2010/04/18 00:41:06
- Location: UpState, NY
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 22:46:20
(permalink)
Win 10 x 64; CbB; SPlat; MixCraft 8 Pro; AMD FX4130, 3.8 GHz; DDR3 32 GB Ram; Focusrite Scarlett 18i20; SSD 1TB, 2 x 1TB and 1 x 640 GB HDD; Mackie HR624 Monitors, KRK G2 Rockit 5's, Dual HP S2331 23" MonitorsMusic and SFX http://www.radiosparx.com/georgeandmarguerite
|
guitartrek
Max Output Level: -47 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2842
- Joined: 2006/02/26 12:37:57
- Status: offline
Re: Toontracks Superior Drummer vs. Addictive Drums
2013/09/28 23:02:18
(permalink)
I've spent considerable time with both. AD is a great package - very intuitive user interface and easy to tweak. I converted almost all my projects over to Superior Drummer after I purchased it. I like the kit pieces better in Superior. It seems like a more professional and higher end drum package. I don't know for sure, but it seems they spent way more hours developing the Superior than AD. There's just more to it than AD. The amount of tweaking you can do is crazy. But there is a much longer learning curve with Superior. You have to be willing to put the time in. I agree with James that the Cymbals in AD are great.
|