cparmerlee
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It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
My hardware is borderline for what one would expect to work on a modern DAW. As such, I generally find it necessary to freeze most of the tracks I'm working on or else I would see dropouts at X2. Playing around a bit with X3, it appears that the program is a lot more resistant to dropouts. When I work on a project that would have seen a lot of dropouts on X2, I am getting none at all on X3. It do hear some pops when the CPU saturates. This is not a big problem as long as those clicks don't end up on the rendered copy. Maybe it is just coincidence or my imagination, but X3 seems a lot more robust in this area.
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DPTrainor
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/09/30 00:17:46
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It appears to continue to be stable.
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/01 12:24:46
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I just upgraded from Sonar X2 Essential to Sonar X3 Studio. I was having dropouts before (which is a big problem for me, a novice, since that usually means you can't export the file to a wav). Unfortunately for me the dropouts have worsened with X3. To the point I had to go to Audacity to finish a project! I do lots of decreasing and increasing the gain throughout a clip and that might throw complication into the project files but I don't know, at all! I have HP Envy H8 1437C with 12 GB ram, Windows 8.1 Pro Evaluation copy installed, Intel Core I.5. It's got an Nvidia card with Beats Audio (uh oh). Even when I copy a track to a new file it carries with it the same dropout baggage. I have found the complicated support help "Dropouts and Other Audio Problems." Any specific help? How to isolate what is causing the conflict and strip down everything to the clip editing I do (mostly recorded keyboard). Sincerely, larry goodell in placitas, nm.
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/01 12:30:00
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larryg I just upgraded from Sonar X2 Essential to Sonar X3 Studio. I was having dropouts before (which is a big problem for me, a novice, since that usually means you can't export the file to a wav). Unfortunately for me the dropouts have worsened with X3. To the point I had to go to Audacity to finish a project! I do lots of decreasing and increasing the gain throughout a clip and that might throw complication into the project files but I don't know, at all! I have HP Envy H8 1437C with 12 GB ram, Windows 8.1 Pro Evaluation copy installed, Intel Core I.5. It's got an Nvidia card with Beats Audio (uh oh). Even when I copy a track to a new file it carries with it the same dropout baggageThis I'm aware of, any other helpful links so I can work on this, I will appreciate . . . and How to isolate what is causing the conflict and strip down everything to the clip editing I do (mostly recorded keyboard). Sincerely, larry goodell in placitas, nm.
Hi Larry, please contact us so we can trouble shoot your issues.
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cparmerlee
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/01 12:37:07
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larryg I just upgraded from Sonar X2 Essential to Sonar X3 Studio. I was having dropouts before (which is a big problem for me, a novice, since that usually means you can't export the file to a wav). Unfortunately for me the dropouts have worsened with X3. To the point I had to go to Audacity to finish a project! I do lots of decreasing and increasing the gain throughout a clip and that might throw complication into the project files but I don't know, at all! I have HP Envy H8 1437C with 12 GB ram, Windows 8.1 Pro Evaluation copy installed, Intel Core I.5. It's got an Nvidia card with Beats Audio (uh oh). Even when I copy a track to a new file it carries with it the same dropout baggage. I have found the complicated support help "Dropouts and Other Audio Problems." Any specific help? How to isolate what is causing the conflict and strip down everything to the clip editing I do (mostly recorded keyboard). Sincerely, larry goodell in placitas, nm.
Dropouts should have no bearing on exporting WAV files. If you have Fast Bounce turned on, then the rendering process should never have a dropout. It will just take as long as it needs to render. Is a dropout box actually appearing during the file-export process? Do you freeze tracks? If you are seeing a lot of dropouts, that will usually help. Freezing gets the most intense computing out of the way so that it doesn't have to be done in real time.
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gswitz
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/01 12:55:52
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I also find X3 to be noticeably more efficient.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/02 11:07:38
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larryg I just upgraded from Sonar X2 Essential to Sonar X3 Studio. I was having dropouts before (which is a big problem for me, a novice, since that usually means you can't export the file to a wav). Unfortunately for me the dropouts have worsened with X3. To the point I had to go to Audacity to finish a project! I do lots of decreasing and increasing the gain throughout a clip and that might throw complication into the project files but I don't know, at all! I have HP Envy H8 1437C with 12 GB ram, Windows 8.1 Pro Evaluation copy installed, Intel Core I.5. It's got an Nvidia card with Beats Audio (uh oh). Even when I copy a track to a new file it carries with it the same dropout baggage. I have found the complicated support help "Dropouts and Other Audio Problems." Any specific help? How to isolate what is causing the conflict and strip down everything to the clip editing I do (mostly recorded keyboard). Sincerely, larry goodell in placitas, nm.
What kind of an audio interface are you using? Are you using MME(32bit) drivers or ASIO Drivers?
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/02 11:07:39
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larryg I just upgraded from Sonar X2 Essential to Sonar X3 Studio. I was having dropouts before (which is a big problem for me, a novice, since that usually means you can't export the file to a wav). Unfortunately for me the dropouts have worsened with X3. To the point I had to go to Audacity to finish a project! I do lots of decreasing and increasing the gain throughout a clip and that might throw complication into the project files but I don't know, at all! I have HP Envy H8 1437C with 12 GB ram, Windows 8.1 Pro Evaluation copy installed, Intel Core I.5. It's got an Nvidia card with Beats Audio (uh oh). Even when I copy a track to a new file it carries with it the same dropout baggage. I have found the complicated support help "Dropouts and Other Audio Problems." Any specific help? How to isolate what is causing the conflict and strip down everything to the clip editing I do (mostly recorded keyboard). Sincerely, larry goodell in placitas, nm.
What kind of an audio interface are you using? Are you using MME(32bit) drivers or ASIO Drivers?
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yorolpal
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/02 11:15:42
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Hey, even the admins get double posts!! Cool.
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denverdrummer
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/02 13:17:27
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That's the first thing I noticed. The biggest improvement is the stability. I can now make edits in playback and move around without the audio engine crashing.
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stevec
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/02 13:22:42
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This is really sounding good... I just started the download process so am looking forward to the X3 Experience!
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/02 18:02:30
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Same here, stability much better on X3!
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larryg
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/03 12:01:25
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Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]
larryg I just upgraded from Sonar X2 Essential to Sonar X3 Studio. I was having dropouts before (which is a big problem for me, a novice, since that usually means you can't export the file to a wav). Unfortunately for me the dropouts have worsened with X3. To the point I had to go to Audacity to finish a project! I do lots of decreasing and increasing the gain throughout a clip and that might throw complication into the project files but I don't know, at all! I have HP Envy H8 1437C with 12 GB ram, Windows 8.1 Pro Evaluation copy installed, Intel Core I.5. It's got an Nvidia card with Beats Audio (uh oh). Even when I copy a track to a new file it carries with it the same dropout baggage. I have found the complicated support help "Dropouts and Other Audio Problems." Any specific help? How to isolate what is causing the conflict and strip down everything to the clip editing I do (mostly recorded keyboard). Sincerely, larry goodell in placitas, nm.
What kind of an audio interface are you using? Are you using MME(32bit) drivers or ASIO Drivers?
MME(32bit) (and i'm wondering abt Sync & Cach buffer setting; mine's at 512
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SuperG
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/03 13:09:59
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FWIW, I use WDM/KS (WaveRT) and it really rocks. Sonar's talking to a MOTU Ultralite MKIII Hybrid via Firewire (bus power is nice...). When not recording, I use a 768 sample buffer (17.4ms). No snap, crackle or pop - rock solid.
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SuperG
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/03 13:09:59
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FWIW, I use WDM/KS (WaveRT) and it really rocks. Sonar's talking to a MOTU Ultralite MKIII Hybrid via Firewire (bus power is nice...). When not recording, I use a 768 sample buffer (17.4ms). No snap, crackle or pop - rock solid.
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SuperG
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/03 13:09:59
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FWIW, I use WDM/KS (WaveRT) and it really rocks. Sonar's talking to a MOTU Ultralite MKIII Hybrid via Firewire (bus power is nice...). When not recording, I use a 768 sample buffer (17.4ms). No snap, crackle or pop - rock solid.
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Re: It appears X3 dropouts are mostly eliminated
2013/10/03 14:36:06
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larryg
Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]
larryg I just upgraded from Sonar X2 Essential to Sonar X3 Studio. I was having dropouts before (which is a big problem for me, a novice, since that usually means you can't export the file to a wav). Unfortunately for me the dropouts have worsened with X3. To the point I had to go to Audacity to finish a project! I do lots of decreasing and increasing the gain throughout a clip and that might throw complication into the project files but I don't know, at all! I have HP Envy H8 1437C with 12 GB ram, Windows 8.1 Pro Evaluation copy installed, Intel Core I.5. It's got an Nvidia card with Beats Audio (uh oh). Even when I copy a track to a new file it carries with it the same dropout baggage. I have found the complicated support help "Dropouts and Other Audio Problems." Any specific help? How to isolate what is causing the conflict and strip down everything to the clip editing I do (mostly recorded keyboard). Sincerely, larry goodell in placitas, nm.
What kind of an audio interface are you using? Are you using MME(32bit) drivers or ASIO Drivers?
MME(32bit) (and i'm wondering abt Sync & Cach buffer setting; mine's at 512
It's possible that your MME(32bit) Drivers are causing this issue above anything else. Do you have an audio interface that uses ASIO drivers? That being said, you can try adjusting your buffer size to it's max within Edit > Preferences > Driver Settings and moving the Mixing Latency closer to safe. How big is the session that you are trying to run?
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