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2013/10/01 13:46:42 (permalink)

Do I need to upgrade for Sonar X3

Hi all,
 
I have a 3 and a half year old laptop as per sig.
 
Will it be a bit long in the tooth for X3?It's been fine so far but I think the Pro Modules start to tax it a little more.
 
I don't regard my productions as particularly complex but then I do need to improve my mixing and mastering techniques.
 
I'm also wondering if any component upgrades (SSD?) and a complete re-install of W7 might help in the interim.
 
Thanks for any thoughts!
 
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Re: Do I need to upgrade for Sonar X3 2013/10/01 17:42:16 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mus 2013/10/01 18:31:58

System Requirements

Minimum system requirements
  • Windows 7 or Windows 8 (32 and 64-bit). XP and Vista are no longer officially supported.
  • Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 2.67 GHz / AMD Phenom Quad Core 9750 2.4 Ghz or higher
  • 2GB of RAM
  • 1280x800 minimum screen resolution
  • 4.5GB for minimal install, 20GB recommended
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    Re: Do I need to upgrade for Sonar X3 2013/10/01 18:34:10 (permalink)
    Thanks.
     
    Actually, how does a Core 2 Duo 2.67GHz stack up against an i7 1.6GHz?
     
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    Re: Do I need to upgrade for Sonar X3 2013/12/08 17:22:06 (permalink)
     
     
    I don't know anything about PCs and am a newbie with Sonar, which is unbelievable when you figure I have had this since Sonar 7PE was released, but I managed a two year renovation to a 125 year old house and then a new job, then grandkids and yada, yada, yada.
     
    Anyway I am in it now, and when I bought the stuff years ago I thought I was golden, but...not so. Although I meet and maybe exceed the "system requirement", it is not good enough. I just tried to mix a 12 track analogue mix, using a bunch of host SW plug-ins and it is very slow in its response to changes.
     
    I guess what I mean is, there are glitches, hesitations, lock ups...as if I am really stressing the cpu. I used a little compression and eq in each track, then a little, compression, eq and reverb on the drum buss, then on the master I used a little compression, reverb and eq. Then finally I tried to use LP64 to finish it off. 
     
    I worked on it for an hour and it sounds o.k., but it was a pain in the butt, because of the glitches, hesitation, locks ups, etc. In the end it worked so that I could test my new room, which I acoustically treated and added new monitors too, but wow, I was really shocked, as I thought I would be fine, as my laptop met or exceeded the requirements. I even upgraded to a TI chipset for the laptop, which helped, but geez. And believe me; I have optimized this laptop to the enth degree, using all the great information on this forum and others. I even upgraded the Bios etc. 
     
    So, again, I don't know what I am doing and am still learning alot, but one thing I "think" I learned is that I need to get a new tower. After I get the new tower from "Studio Cat", I am hoping to get Alloy2 and Ozone 5 and might even consider upgrading to X3, but really don't know if that is necessary or not, as I am not sure of what to expect with regards to what I gain, and of course I use the laptop for capturing in a different location and then use another laptop (soon to be replaced by new tower from Studio Cat) to mix down. 
     
    So what happens when I capture audio on the 32Bit Sonar 7PE and move it (via external HD) to the new 64Bit X3 tower? I “think” it will be fine, from what I have read. Don’t really know just yet. I hate not knowing what I am doing, but love learning as I go along…LOL
    post edited by TremoJem - 2013/12/31 19:08:38

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    Re: Do I need to upgrade for Sonar X3 2013/12/09 14:46:40 (permalink)
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    Thanks.
     
    Actually, how does a Core 2 Duo 2.67GHz stack up against an i7 1.6GHz?
     
    Cheers
    M


    Good question. That is the problem with using a "better-than-model-X-CPU" to define your system requirements. For the particular purposes of the requirement, are you defining the slowest core that will work or some kind of capacity to process single vs multithreaded code? It is like saying the minimum requirement to make a pie is a granny smith apple or better. Will cherries work?
     
    That said, for most purposes an i7 will work as well as or better than a core 2 duo.
    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
     
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