ThomasEngineer
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Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
I like the Pro Channel EQ and with the new extened feature that gives me a larger view. I want to do the following: Right now the default values when opening the Pro Channel EQ are: HYBRID LOW 80 Hz / 1.3 / 0.0 LOW MID 317 Hz / 1.3 / 0.0 HI MID 1262 Hz / 1.3 / 0.0 HIGH 5024 Hz / 1.3 / 0.0 Let's say I want that start out state to be something different. Just an example: PURE LOW 120 Hz / 1.0 / 0.0 LOW MID 275 Hz / 1.2 / 0.0 HI MID 1600 Hz / 1.2 / 0.0 HIGH 3800 Hz / 1.0 / 0.0 How can I save a preset or what can I do so that these new values will automaticall be there for every new project etc. So that when I insert a new audio track and open the Pro Channel, then these chosen frequencies are always there immediately. In short - I don't want what Sonar X is giving me as default settings for the Pro Channel EQ and I want to change this and not have to change it every time over and over... Thanks in advance for your help Thomas
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 11:02:03
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Adjust the settings the way you like them and save a PC preset. If you want it that way every time you create a new track then "set modules as default for tracks / busses"
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 11:05:32
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ThomasEngineer
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 11:53:49
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Thanks for your replies: 1. Saving the "set modules as default for tracks" only creates a default including what MODULES in the Pro Channel will come up on new tracks as defaults. The actual EQ default frequencies and Q-values etc however will be factory defaults. And those are the ones I want to change. 2. Making a template is a good idea sometimes. But far from always: new tracks are added to an existing template and then the equalizer default frequencies will need to be reset again. And again. And again... And that's what I'm trying to change here. So if any of you guys know how to make the Pro Channels EQ can be set to start with oether frequencies as default your advice will be highly appreciated. Best T
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 11:56:29
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Could the settings be saved in a project template?
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 12:02:26
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There are so many elements of this guys posts that give away the fact that he knew the answers to his "questions" before he posted them. He feigns ignorance, yet somehow he his follow up retorts seem to indicate more knowledge of Sonar than a newbie would display. His questions in every thread he has posted have seemed to be simply setup questions to post follow up statements to point out his perceived deficiencies in Sonar . It's a common technique in forums by trolls. I guarantee in every post this guy makes, no matter what answers he receives, they will be followed by a detailed retort disguised in politeness
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ThomasEngineer
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 12:15:30
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Maybe there's an ini-file or something somewhere where default frequencies etc. are listed. Perhaps a possiblity to edit a file like that? Thomas
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 12:16:07
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Duplicate account? Dunno....just tossing that one out there.....it could be someone we know.....or not
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 12:21:28
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dubdisciple There are so many elements of this guys posts that give away the fact that he knew the answers to his "questions" before he posted them. He feigns ignorance, yet somehow he his follow up retorts seem to indicate more knowledge of Sonar than a newbie would display. His questions in every thread he has posted have seemed to be simply setup questions to post follow up statements to point out his perceived deficiencies in Sonar . It's a common technique in forums by trolls. I guarantee in every post this guy makes, no matter what answers he receives, they will be followed by a detailed retort disguised in politeness
No this is a common technique to get specific answers. Where did he state he was a newbie?
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 12:27:32
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ThomasEngineer Maybe there's an ini-file or something somewhere where default frequencies etc. are listed. Perhaps a possiblity to edit a file like that? Thomas
I'm quite sure default values are inside plug-in dll. Editing is not possible.
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 13:16:47
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☄ Helpfulby John T 2013/10/02 02:39:12
vintagevibe, being that you tend to be a voice of negativity, it is no surprise you would lean towards an obvious troll. If you don't find it odd that a person pops up out of the blue with multiple detailed tech questions with follow up detailed critiscisms that he already knows the answers to and writes eerily like the same person on these forums that pulls this exact same stunt during every new release then we can simply agree to disagree. A few others can figure out exactly who this is posting.
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 13:20:08
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dubdisciple vintagevibe, being that you tend to be a voice of negativity, it is no surprise you would lean towards an obvious troll. If you don't find it odd that a person pops up out of the blue with multiple detailed tech questions with follow up detailed critiscisms that he already knows the answers to and writes eerily like the same person on these forums that pulls this exact same stunt during every new release then we can simply agree to disagree. A few others can figure out exactly who this is posting.
Actually I'm being positive and you are being negative and rude by accusing someone on a paranoid hunch that you cannot substantiate.
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dubdisciple
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 13:24:58
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again..agree to disagree. The fact that in his brief posting history he has already had a thread locked speaks volumes about the nature of his posts but you keep holding on to that "positivity". :)
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 13:36:57
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Mistergreen Could the settings be saved in a project template?
Yep. That's what I do. I created a project that had the track count I wanted, the plugs I usually use, the settings, and the VSTi's that I normally have on a project, and named it "Template". I start every song with it.
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 13:37:26
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Scott posted a tip recently about setting default presets for plugins, not sure if this would translate to the PC or not and I'm away from my studio computer right now, so I can't test it, but that approach may be worth looking into.
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 13:40:48
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dubdisciple again..agree to disagree. The fact that in his brief posting history he has already had a thread locked speaks volumes about the nature of his posts but you keep holding on to that "positivity". :)
Oh, did I just waste my time trying to explain that to him?
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 14:00:28
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Leadfoot
dubdisciple again..agree to disagree. The fact that in his brief posting history he has already had a thread locked speaks volumes about the nature of his posts but you keep holding on to that "positivity". :)
Oh, did I just waste my time trying to explain that to him?
I'm actually hoping I'm wrong. I would much rather this be a guy needing help than to think that someone has nothing better to do than pull the same stunt year after year.
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ThomasEngineer
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 15:24:24
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Dear Andrew, and dear "dubdisciple"... X2 was our first Sonar version here. And yes, we are a registered user. I'm not that an experienced guy on Sonar / Windows DAW's (yet). I do have quite a bit of experience in the field of audio engineering though. And we spend 99% of our time working. Very little time on the internet. The studio where I work is now also on Windows - due to a few of our clients' demands. Mostly though we're on Mac. As are many other studios. I sort of started to really like Sonar X2 and X3 and wanted to learn more. What a brave guy I was - with all the Apple guys around me! So anyway... we were hoping to get some friendly help on this forum from fellow engineers and audio folk but it seems 8 out of 10 posts are rather hostile and weird. And it appears you are encouraging me/us to not use this forum anymore (?). Seems some of you think ("dubdisciple"?) I'm someone else who posts here after every new program release. I have - which goes for everyone else here at the studio - NEVER EVER posted anything at all on a Sonar forum before and we find your replies to our tech questions insulting and totally weird. Especially since we actually were having ideas and thought that could generat interesting talk. A few very nice and friendly though - thanks! :) We are dedicated audio people, one guy here with some awesome achievments in loudspeaker and studio design etc. (not me...). Everyone here have read my posts and your replies - and a few have generated the input to some of my posts - we don't feel good anymore about this. Having created a forum account only 2 hours ago and being a Logic and DP and analogue guy I have a little bit of forum experience. Not a lot - but tech questions was never replied to anywhere like I experienced here. Sincere thanks to those few who were nice and friendly. Actually "me" = 3 engineers and some other guys here. Guess the Sonar DAW is a good DAW. Only have experience of another forum (DAW for Apple) and it was different... It was just "normal". Reviewing our posts / my posts, I don't see anything strange or bad in them at all and cannot understand why they were not replied to in the same technical and professional spirit. It was just me personally who got a little curious and began to like X2/X3. A feeling that soon went away thanks to the "unusual" responses here. Best and thanks for your kind help! Good that it only took 2 hours to find out. Thomas
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 15:30:27
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This, unfortunately, is what this forum has become. I try to say it from time to time but you see what reaction I get.
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 15:33:59
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FWIW Thomas, I agree with you. And carefully reading your OP and subsequent posts, it gives me the feeling that you don't know a lot about Sonar per se, but are quite familiar with DAW's in general and moreover with audio engineering. Your questions blend 100% with that experience. Please do not be discouraged by some, who DO have good intentions, but can sometimes be mistaken. If you stick with Sonar I think you will be well rewarded. Cheers
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 15:41:39
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Thomas this forum has been through some bad times with some nasty characters. Some here are a little sensitive, perhaps over sensitive. If in fact you are sincere in your wish to understand Sonar I and many others will be happy to help. What I would caution the forum is being too cautious can hurt as much as being too easy. However when hate is met with love and deceit is met with openness the hater and the deceiver will always loose. If we try our best to help we can't loose.
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 16:02:56
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ThomasEngineer Dear Andrew, and dear "dubdisciple"...
X2 was our first Sonar version here. And yes, we are a registered user.
I'm not that an experienced guy on Sonar / Windows DAW's (yet). I do have quite a bit of experience in the field of audio engineering though. And we spend 99% of our time working. Very little time on the internet.
The studio where I work is now also on Windows - due to a few of our clients' demands. Mostly though we're on Mac. As are many other studios.
I sort of started to really like Sonar X2 and X3 and wanted to learn more. What a brave guy I was - with all the Apple guys around me!
So anyway... we were hoping to get some friendly help on this forum from fellow engineers and audio folk but it seems 8 out of 10 posts are rather hostile and weird. And it appears you are encouraging me/us to not use this forum anymore (?).
Seems some of you think ("dubdisciple"?) I'm someone else who posts here after every new program release. I have - which goes for everyone else here at the studio - NEVER EVER posted anything at all on a Sonar forum before and we find your replies to our tech questions insulting and totally weird. Especially since we actually were having ideas and thought that could generat interesting talk.
A few very nice and friendly though - thanks! :)
We are dedicated audio people, one guy here with some awesome achievments in loudspeaker and studio design etc. (not me...). Everyone here have read my posts and your replies - and a few have generated the input to some of my posts - we don't feel good anymore about this.
Having created a forum account only 2 hours ago and being a Logic and DP and analogue guy I have a little bit of forum experience. Not a lot - but tech questions was never replied to anywhere like I experienced here.
Sincere thanks to those few who were nice and friendly. Actually "me" = 3 engineers and some other guys here. Guess the Sonar DAW is a good DAW. Only have experience of another forum (DAW for Apple) and it was different... It was just "normal".
Reviewing our posts / my posts, I don't see anything strange or bad in them at all and cannot understand why they were not replied to in the same technical and professional spirit.
It was just me personally who got a little curious and began to like X2/X3. A feeling that soon went away thanks to the "unusual" responses here.
Best and thanks for your kind help! Good that it only took 2 hours to find out. Thomas
Hi Thomas, I was only trying to offer you direct help for some of your issues, specifically the audio dropout. Sometimes a quick call can get things squared away. So please do keep that in mind.
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dubdisciple
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 16:23:16
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Thomas. As i said in the other thread, i actually hope I'm wrong. Unfortunately we have been hit by the same routine so often that it does lead to suspicion when what appears to be the same MO comes up. The person you seem to be makes these threads to stir up resident malcontents who quickly jump to defend him and it usually sparks post after post of endless rants. If that is not you, you have my full apology
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 16:27:46
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 16:31:07
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ThomasEngineer Thanks for your replies: 1. Saving the "set modules as default for tracks" only creates a default including what MODULES in the Pro Channel will come up on new tracks as defaults. The actual EQ default frequencies and Q-values etc however will be factory defaults. And those are the ones I want to change. 2. Making a template is a good idea sometimes. But far from always: new tracks are added to an existing template and then the equalizer default frequencies will need to be reset again. And again. And again... And that's what I'm trying to change here. So if any of you guys know how to make the Pro Channels EQ can be set to start with oether frequencies as default your advice will be highly appreciated. Best T
Hi Thomas, Having a configurable default for EQ is a great idea for a future update to Sonar. I'll pass this along to our Product team for consideration. In the meantime, you have a few options to help you with this task. On a track that has the EQ frequency settings you need, right click and choose "Save as track Template" on the track strip (where the controls are). To call this template, right click on the gray space below the track strips and insert the template you saved. ProChannel presets are also available to you. You can re-save the Misc-Full Reset preset with the EQ settings you need. Putting an underscore (_) at the beginning of the preset file name brings it to the top for quick access. I would also advise creating project templates with these settings. Clone track would come in handy with this task. Create a single audio track with the settings you prefer with EQ (and other PC modules). Right click the track on the track strip and choose "Clone track." Save this project as a template. You can also keep a blank track handy in your projects to quickly clone as you need new tracks with your EQ or other settings. Hope this helps.
Thanks! Daniel Cate [Cakewalk]
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 16:33:05
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FWIW I would also like to see 'set modules as defaults' remember the actual settings of each module so they can be inherited into each new track.
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/01 16:33:56
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what an odd word to censor
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/02 15:34:11
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Hi, my/our questions were 100% in regards to technical issues. The replies turned out to be 90% about social/psychological/hostile/paranoid/conspiracy/fear issues of various nature so we decided it's better to leave you guys to it... This sounds like a dangerous place..  Thanks again for the 10% replies that made sense. Good luck w everything Thomas
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/02 17:45:25
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Good luck, Thomas. Your syntax and word choice is remarkably familiar to me. It is almost impossible to disguise. I am sorry that you have not found what you were looking for here, but am sure we will talk again. Regards jb
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Re: Changing the Pro Channel EQ default Hz and Q values. How?
2013/10/02 17:48:48
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Of course, EQ presets are a real priority for console-reared engineers. A highly specific default is downright essential. Do me a favour.
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