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WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3

Again I say WOOT WOOT.
 
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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/28 21:58:38 (permalink)
It is starting to sound like this will not be the last software purchase of 2013
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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 02:34:22 (permalink)
Actually I know it will be the last audio software purchase for 2013.
 
Right now I'm stoked.
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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 02:34:22 (permalink)
Actually I know it will be the last audio software purchase for 2013.
 
Right now I'm stoked.
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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 02:34:22 (permalink)
Actually I know it will be the last audio software purchase for 2013.
 
Right now I'm stoked.
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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 02:34:21 (permalink)
Actually I know it will be the last audio software purchase for 2013.
 
Right now I'm stoked.
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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 02:34:22 (permalink)
Actually I know it will be the last audio software purchase for 2013.
 
Right now I'm stoked.
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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 02:36:23 (permalink)
Surely that's like every plugin ever made. 

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 06:48:07 (permalink)
Stoked ..... and Broke?

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 06:55:21 (permalink)
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Stoked ..... and Broke?


And unable to use this forum .

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 06:57:35 (permalink)
Bapu obviously cares about post count. ;-)

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 06:57:49 (permalink)
I had 700 odd but I'm thinking of trimming some of the old junky stuff that never sees the light of day.

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 07:24:39 (permalink)
Good news!

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 07:47:23 (permalink)
The Bapu
Again I say WOOT WOOT.
 
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So now he just needs to learn to use a dozen of them properly and he can delete the other 1250!

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 08:31:23 (permalink)
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The Bapu
Again I say WOOT WOOT.
 
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So now he just needs to learn to use a dozen of them properly and he can delete the other 1250!


Nah, he can keep them.  Just buy a bigger hard drive to teach those darned VST's a lesson.  (I guess that means I am losing it when I start showing electrons where to go).

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/09/29 09:01:18 (permalink)
Seamless, genius, limitless <tm> :)
Actually in X3 you can very easily run into high plugin counts since if you have both VST3 and VST2 versions of your plugins you have doubled your count. Especially true with Waves plugins. This is what pushed us harder to address this issue. 
I recommend turning on the hide related VST2 plugins option to remove redundant UI clutter if you intend using VST3 versions when available. Note that hiding them from the menus doesn't prevent you from loading projects containing them. Its a UI choice only.

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 12:43:31 (permalink)
Noel, on the "seamless, genius, limitless...No more plugin limit warnings! Past versions supported upto 700 plugins in menus. SONAR X3 now supports unlimited plugins in menus and in the plugin browser" feature......it does seem that a limit does exist as some of my plugins are missing.
 
In the Manage Layout screen, some of the VSTs that are listed there do not appear in the plugin listings....so the same limitations are present in X3 as in X2.
Could you explain how the "unlimited plugins support" manifests itself if plugins are still missing...or am I doing something wrong? (Note that I scanned it using Sonar X3's VST scanner and I'm on Win 7 64-bit)
 
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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 14:03:47 (permalink)
There's a preference for hiding VST2 plugins if a VST3 equivalent exists.   Perhaps that's coming into play?   I believe that would only hide them in the Browser.
 
 

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 14:19:58 (permalink)
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There's a preference for hiding VST2 plugins if a VST3 equivalent exists.   Perhaps that's coming into play?   I believe that would only hide them in the Browser.
 

 
Point of information regarding this...
There are 2 options is found under Edit/Preferences/VST Settings under the VST 3 Migration settings area.
  • Hide Related VST2 Plug-ins
    This has been confirmed as only hiding the concerned plug-in in Sonar's default menus.  Custom menus are unaffected.

  • Replace VST2 Plug-ins When Opening Projects
    This concerns replaced plug-ins used in a project, such as a plug-in inserted in a tracks FX Bin.
    Sonar's help has a table that "shows the expected plug-in substitution results when opening projects containing VST plug-ins."
 

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 14:24:41 (permalink)
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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 14:30:24 (permalink)
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There's a preference for hiding VST2 plugins if a VST3 equivalent exists.   Perhaps that's coming into play?   I believe that would only hide them in the Browser.
 
 

No, it wasn't that related VST2 plugins were hidden due to a VST3 equivalent. It seemed to be the same missing plugins situation that plagued X2 once the VST numbers were over 255. Which is why I was asking how the claimed "unlimited plugins in menus and in the plugin browser" feature of X3 is supposed to manifest. So far, I've not seen it to be the case as there still seems to be a limitation.
 
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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 14:56:01 (permalink)
You may be confusing plugin layouts with the actual plugins on your system. Make sure that the plugin browser is showing the "Default - All Plug-Ins" layout. This is a common mistake when seeing fewer plugins. If you have a layout selected only the plugins contained in the layout will show.

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 15:14:35 (permalink)
Hi Noel 
I know it sounds like a dumb question but just to verify things.
If you create a custom plug-in layout that contains all the plug-ins then all the plug-ins will all show in the menus when using that menu layout, correct?
 

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 15:18:24 (permalink)
Yes, except if you add new plugins to your system they will not automatically be included obviously.

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 15:21:32 (permalink)
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Yes, except if you add new plugins to your system they will not automatically be included obviously.




Thanks for the clarification.  

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 15:53:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby TheSteven 2013/10/14 19:39:07
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Hi Noel 
I know it sounds like a dumb question but just to verify things.
If you create a custom plug-in layout that contains all the plug-ins then all the plug-ins will all show in the menus when using that menu layout, correct?



Yes, to test this you can go to Default All Plug-ins in the menu and then launch plug-in Manager from the browser drop down. This will populate the plug-in manager with the current layout.
 
Save the layout as a custom one and you notice the same behavior as the default all plug-ins. 

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 16:47:52 (permalink)
snif snif, I only have 83 plug-ins....that's okay, that's like having 1200 hammers to pound in one nail.
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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 17:26:02 (permalink)
Any Pro's really using VST 3 ?
 
VST 2 are working great here ..planning on banning VSt3 that installed themselves (i usually do not install RTAS and VST3 when it's availlable)

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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 17:36:26 (permalink)
I was looking forward to side chaining my renaissance comp (which requires VST3) which is still one of my most used compressors, but with the current bug of VST3 settings getting screwed up it's a no go.
Def will be as soon as it's stable. Other than Waves and CA2A I don't think I have any VST3s.
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Re: WOOT WOOT 1272 VSTs for The Bapu in X3 2013/10/02 17:38:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cowboydan 2013/10/14 17:14:07
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