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2013/10/05 13:12:07 (permalink)

getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne?

do I get this right:
 
- you play your usual bass guitar take
 
- put melodyne on it, bounce from audio to midi
 
- quantesize the midi, correct any flase notes
 
- let a soft synth play the bass track to perfection?
 
if I got this striaght - wow!
 
 

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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/05 13:14:10 (permalink)
That would most likely work. Doesn't mean you'll end up with something better, but I've never heard you play bass ;)
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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/05 13:21:41 (permalink)
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That would most likely work. Doesn't mean you'll end up with something better, but I've never heard you play bass ;)

hehehe -  I don't know either if it will sound better, but certainly more prefect! I am not that bad, but you know...I am a lazy guy, I love to keep it to two, three takes!

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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/05 13:24:29 (permalink)
Clearly for best results, you should sample your bass guitar and use the MIDI track to drive a sampler. Awesome!
 
But seriously, folks, do what sounds good to you. X3 gives us more rope than ever before for us to either hang ourselves, or make macrame sculpture.
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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/05 14:03:01 (permalink)
I don't own a bass so I'm thinking of playing bass lines on guitar, converting to MIDI and then transposing down. Of course if you're using it to drive something like Trilian then there's still a lot of work to be done with articulation/keyswitches etc, but the main thing for me is getting the notes and the feeling down first and Melodyne seems ideal for that.

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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/05 14:28:39 (permalink)
Or, you could play your bass part. Apply Melodyne for pitch and timing correction, compress and eq as needed and call it good. I've done this is Studio One with Melodyne but it should work the same in Sonar.
 
You may find Melodyne a good alternative to audio snap for simple timing corrections.

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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/05 14:41:24 (permalink)
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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/05 14:44:02 (permalink)
Or mix a synth'd version of your bass with the original bass track! I am playing with that now with my guitar and a nice slow pad :-)

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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/05 18:46:09 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jps 2013/10/06 11:55:34
My favorite underutilized use of Melodyne for Bass- use the Amplitude tool to smooth out differences in volume between your lower and higher notes. WAY easier than automation if you're a guy that jumps around, and it's better than trying to use compression to accomplish the same thing.

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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/05 18:51:48 (permalink)
Or, you could just practice bass and learn to play the song better. :-)

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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/06 10:01:25 (permalink)
okay, one thing is irratating me: as per the celemony website, melodyne essential does not feature audio to midi convertion - or am I getting this wrong? can you bounce audio to midi with the X3 melodyne version?

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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/06 10:46:01 (permalink)
Yes you can but only monophonic. There's very little need to "bounce" as such, actually. You just drag an audio file onto a midi track. No need to even turn on Melodyne first.
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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/06 11:25:56 (permalink)
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Yes you can but only monophonic. There's very little need to "bounce" as such, actually. You just drag an audio file onto a midi track. No need to even turn on Melodyne first.



Seriously, just drag and drop? That's it? This sounds cool!

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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/06 11:50:47 (permalink)
Yep, even stuff from the browser, straight to a midi track.
To be fair, depending on the source material you may have some cleaning up to do, but it's pretty awesome as a workflow in general.
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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/06 12:04:46 (permalink)
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Or, you could just practice bass and learn to play the song better. :-)



Yeah, this. The "fix" sounds like way more work than just playing the part properly - you know, like musicians have been doing since forever? Nothing against Melodyne - I bought it myself - but it's one of those tools that you should be used sparingly.
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Re: getting that perfect bass guitar take with melodyne? 2013/10/06 12:50:16 (permalink)
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MakeShift
Or, you could just practice bass and learn to play the song better. :-)



Yeah, this. The "fix" sounds like way more work than just playing the part properly - you know, like musicians have been doing since forever? Nothing against Melodyne - I bought it myself - but it's one of those tools that you should be used sparingly.


I can lay down a solid bass track for my usual rock'n'roll stuff, you know. But sometimes, just sometimes, you need a flawless, almost machine-like bass track. For I suck at keyboards, to play a bass track with my bass and bounce it to midi sounds like a cool thing to try out!

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