Chumer
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$3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
Hello everyone, I'm going to build a PC for Sonar X2/X3 Producer in the $3,000 plus range. I've kind'a narrowed it down to the following (of course I'm open to improvements) but I need exact recommendations for each piece of hardware to ensure maximum compatibility with Sonar X2/X3 Producer. I'll be using either the Roland Octa-Capture or the Focusrite 18i20. I'll be using an 88 key keyboard controller. I'm a singer/guitarist/keyboardist and I'll be mostly working alone in my studio. I want to do most everything "in the box" but I may opt for a hardware control surface or a touch screen at some point soon. I'll be buying from NCIX in Canada (they have a great website, check it out) so if you could list the exact hardware pieces that would work best, I'll be forever in your debt. I don't mind going more upscale on some of the pieces if there is not a huge price jump and it must be super quiet! 1) OS drive (128GB or bigger) 2) Demanding libraries drive for Komplete 9 etc. (256 to 512 GB SSD or bigger) 3) Work drive 7200 RPM 3TB (WD Caviar Black or better) 4) Motherboard (brand not sure) all SATA 6, with the SSD's on Intel controller/connectors & the work drive on the Marvell controller/connectors (or better) 5) Intel i7 IvyBridge Extreme CPU 4.5GHz (or better) 6) 32 GB RAM (brand and configuration not sure) 7) Dual head graphics card (brand not sure) 8) Two 24" (or bigger) LCD displays @ 1920 x 1080 resolution (brand not sure) 9) Silent Mid Tower (brand not sure) 10) Power supply (brand not sure) 11) Windows 8 (version not sure) 12) Other stuff (not sure what exactly)
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wizard71
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/14 12:36:24
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Hi, It may be worth asking Jim Roseberry @ studiocat. He is an expert in this area and I believe he offers a consultation service for a tiny fee and it will guarantee compatibility.
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Chumer
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/14 12:39:54
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I have done that and I am awaiting his responses, however I am none-the-less very interested in alternative views by point of comparison, hence my thread. Obliged, Chumer.
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jcschild
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/14 13:43:13
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well first comment is your interface options are not low latency. I recommend win7 NOT 8 Sata 600 only matters for the SSD drive period ram is very very picky on socket 2011 you need DDR3 1600 1.35v high end quality buy the 4930k not the extreme processor they over clock the same at bare minimum 700w power supply like coolermaster quiet series
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Chumer
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/14 13:54:10
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Hello jcschild, Of course I'm open to improvements! Would you be kind enough to copy paste my list from my first post and edit it with your improved suggestions in their entirety, please and much thanks?
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wizard71
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/14 16:41:54
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Chumer I have done that and I am awaiting his responses, however I am none-the-less very interested in alternative views by point of comparison, hence my thread. Obliged, Chumer.
Didn't see a mention of that in your original post hence my reply. Bibs
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Chumer
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/14 16:52:21
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Sorry but I am not sure what thread you are referring to. Also I am not sure what it is you are asking (assuming you are asking a question) thus I am at a loss as to how to respond.
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wizard71
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/14 17:13:30
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My post was based on you not mentioning that you had already asked Jim for advice which I couldn't possibly have guessed. I didn't understand your reply back to me based on that fact. Still, just a mis understanding.
If it's truly silent you are after and also an alternative opinion then I can do no better than recommend solidhawk.co.uk who are renowned for super silent audio PC's. Although they are London based, they are a great company and I'm sure they will offer you the advice you seek.
In my opinion, a $3000 budgets warrants a professional build as in people that work day in day out with audio PC's.
Good luck with whatever you do.
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Chumer
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/14 17:35:20
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I see how the confusion arose. You did not start your sentence with the word "I" leaving me to wonder if you were asking asking a question, notwithstanding the fact that you ended your sentence with a period. Thanks for the info regarding UK PC builders. I live in Canada, it's part of the British Commonwealth's final remnants. In all things The sun must set But to rise again In another way
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/15 05:40:13
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Just one comment I'd like to make, go for 3 internal hard drives: - Os & Programs
- Sample Libraries
- Cakewalk Projects
If your budget can stretch to it, SSD's would be ideal for bullet points 1 & 2. Use your WD Caviar for your Projects Also, don't neglect some form of backup drive(s). External HDD's are great for this purpose, and don't EVER go for any sort of "green" drive anywhere in your system
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Jeff Evans
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/15 06:22:50
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Why not just get this: http://www.musiccomputing.com/coremc The base model is only $2499. Update: But after optioning it up heavily it came out at $10,000 plus. Ouch. Nice computer though!
post edited by Jeff Evans - 2013/10/15 07:15:36
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wizard71
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/15 10:17:24
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Jeff Evans Why not just get this: http://www.musiccomputing.com/coremc The base model is only $2499. Update: But after optioning it up heavily it came out at $10,000 plus. Ouch. Nice computer though!
Wow! That's amazing.
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Jim Roseberry
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/15 12:22:25
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Xeon based DAWs offer no real benefit for 99.9% of end users... and the cost sky-rockets vs. socket 2011/X79. How many end users need more that 64GB RAM and 12 virtual cores at 4.5GHz? Got a call from a composer in LA who had a local person build a VE Pro Slave (via LAN) to use along with his Mac Pro. The local person built a Xeon based machine using an EVGA motherboard with a non Intel LAN controller. Impressive specs... cost a lot... but doesn't work for the intended purpose.
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Chumer
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/15 20:57:45
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I'm obliged for the insights everyone! I've decided to go with a Jim Roseberry built machine as compared to NCIX Canada. The pricing difference is insignificant plus the service & support, BIOS/OS tweaking, installation of Windows 8 & Sonar Producer X2 etc. plus disk imaging the whole thing makes Jim's machine a clear winner for me. I was pleasantly surprised by Jim's high level of courtesy, support and professionalism, and once I receive the unit I will provide a report for y'all to absorb.
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/15 22:13:55
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+1,000 for Jim Roseberry at StudioCat! I recently used his consultation service to assist with rebuilding my custom DAW. Worth every penny and then some. Jim rocks!
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/16 04:42:14
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Good choice Daniel. You won't regret it.
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/16 07:27:07
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Chumer I'm obliged for the insights everyone! I've decided to go with a Jim Roseberry built machine as compared to NCIX Canada. The pricing difference is insignificant plus the service & support, BIOS/OS tweaking, installation of Windows 8 & Sonar Producer X2 etc. plus disk imaging the whole thing makes Jim's machine a clear winner for me. I was pleasantly surprised by Jim's high level of courtesy, support and professionalism, and once I receive the unit I will provide a report for y'all to absorb.
Well Done! :-)
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Truckermusic
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Re: $3,000 Plus Build Sonar X2/X3 Producer Advice Please
2013/10/22 16:47:18
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You will not be sorry that you had Jim build you one. Especially at that price...... He is an out standing builder and his service is second to none! Personal experience........just saying....
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