cowboydan
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Problems with VST Scan
I have been busy for 2 days now to find the problem for the vstscan in Sonar X3. I also contacted Cake support about the problem and was told to do a clean install. Everything out the register and all the other places which I have never been before and then installed Sonar X3 again.
I thought that all my problems were over , but that wasnt the case. After starting up X3 a couple of times my VST3 plugins were gone from the plugin Manager. This was also the problem the first time. I wasnt about to do another clean install so I started to check to see why this was happening.
I went into preferences/vst settings and tried a reset and then another scan. Still no VST3 plugins. I checked my computer as to where the vst folders were and found no problem with the vst paths.
I finally decided to delete all the vst paths in preferences except for the VST3 path. I did another reset and scanned again.
To my surprise the scan showed the VST3 plugins again. I didnt change the path names in the plugin manager and thought that they were connected with the preference settings, but now I only had my VST3 plugins and the internal plugins.
I added the other vst plugin paths one by one in preferences and finally got the vstscan to find all my plugins.
As you can imagine I do not want to have to do this every time the plugins are not scanned right.
Can the bakers look into this to see if there is something wrong with the vst scan and the bigger question is if anyone has had the same problems with the scanning paths.
Thank You
Danny
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/17 21:41:20
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I'm having an issue with scan not finding my Alchemy data bank. I have to manually direct it to where the data bank is installed - program data file, despite having the path listed. Just an update...Camel Tech finally got back and gave me a process for sorting this particular issue out...all good now.
post edited by Fabio Rubato - 2013/10/27 05:17:37
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cowboydan
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/18 07:00:54
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My problem is that it seems that the vstscan doesnt see the whole path when scanning. I have 4 paths in my drive to scan the plugins from. They are: C:\program files\Vstplugins C:\program files\Steinberg\vstplugins C:\program files\cakewalk\vstfiles C:\program files\common files\vst3 I cant figure what the problem is that Sonar has problems scanning these directory's. How does this scan actually work in combination with the plugin manager?
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cowboydan
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/18 11:35:00
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Is there anyone at cakewalk that has an idea as to how this happens?
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/18 11:39:34
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cowboydan
My problem is that it seems that the vstscan doesnt see the whole path when scanning. I have 4 paths in my drive to scan the plugins from.
They are: C:/program files/Vstplugins
C:/program files/Steinberg/vstplugins
C:/program files/cakewalk/vstfiles
C:/program files/common files/vst3
I cant figure what the problem is that Sonar has problems scanning these directory's. How does this scan actually work in combination with the plugin manager?
I am not sure it matters but did you try using backslashes "\" instead of slashes "/" in windows path names. I have never used slashes in VST path names in SONAR.
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/18 11:50:09
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2 things. There is no need to use Plugin manager at all to setup vst scan or to perform one. In fact there is a bug where potentially the 32 bit plugin manager was being launched (now fixed for X3C). Stick to setting up everything inside SONAR's VST preferences.
Also how did you get forward slashes in the paths? Windows doesn't support that. To enter scan paths use the dialog provided in vst preferences.
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/18 12:14:02
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/18 12:16:45
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John T
Ooh, there's an X3c?
I believe it has been mentioned by CW staff in a few posts. It has not been released.
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cowboydan
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/18 12:31:25
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The forward slashes were my mistake. When you add a folder to scan a popup menu with your drive comes up and with mouse clicks you keep going until you get the folder you need and then it goes in the vstscan page
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/18 12:37:46
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
2 things. There is no need to use Plugin manager at all to setup vst scan or to perform one. In fact there is a bug where potentially the 32 bit plugin manager was being launched (now fixed for X3C). Stick to setting up everything inside SONAR's VST preferences.
Also how did you get forward slashes in the paths? Windows doesn't support that. To enter scan paths use the dialog provided in vst preferences.
Hi Noel Would the bug mean that all of a sudden the scanner doesnt scan the paths that are in the preferences window ? That is what happens. when I scanned the vst plugins All at once I didnt get the vst3 folder or plugins. That was the whole story. Danny
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/18 12:40:07
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
There is no need to use Plugin manager at all to setup vst scan or to perform one. In fact there is a bug where potentially the 32 bit plugin manager was being launched (now fixed for X3C). Stick to setting up everything inside SONAR's VST preferences.
To enter scan paths use the dialog provided in vst preferences.
Noel, did you get the Cakewalk coffee mug with X3C...and more importantly, will I get one with X3C?
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/18 13:25:44
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cowboydan
Would the bug mean that all of a sudden the scanner doesnt scan the paths that are in the preferences window ? That is what happens. when I scanned the vst plugins All at once I didnt get the vst3 folder or plugins. That was the whole story.
Its easy to check - if you are running the 64 bit version of SONAR and launch plugin manager, the title bar should say Cakewalk Plugin Manager X64 If it doesn't its running the 32 bit plugin manager and if you scan from there its actually scanning the 32 bit path not the 64 bit path - therefore the 64 bit SONAR wont see any results of that scan. The 32 bit and 64 bit scans are stored independently in the registry. Anyway that issue has been fixed. As I said earlier there is absolutely no reason to use the plugin manager to scan. Just use the scan button from SONAR.
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/18 14:36:07
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spacey
Noel, did you get the Cakewalk coffee mug with X3C...and more importantly, will I get one with X3C?
Good question! Can I have one too? <-- That's another good question.
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cowboydan
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/18 15:22:21
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
cowboydan
Would the bug mean that all of a sudden the scanner doesnt scan the paths that are in the preferences window ? That is what happens. when I scanned the vst plugins All at once I didnt get the vst3 folder or plugins. That was the whole story.
Its easy to check - if you are running the 64 bit version of SONAR and launch plugin manager, the title bar should say Cakewalk Plugin Manager X64
If it doesn't its running the 32 bit plugin manager and if you scan from there its actually scanning the 32 bit path not the 64 bit path - therefore the 64 bit SONAR wont see any results of that scan. The 32 bit and 64 bit scans are stored independently in the registry.
Anyway that issue has been fixed. As I said earlier there is absolutely no reason to use the plugin manager to scan. Just use the scan button from SONAR.
Sorry Noel
What I mean is that in the browser the plugins are in a directory.
+VST3-
+VST2-
Direct X-
etc.
What Im saying is that after opening Sonar X3 a few times with the scan at startup in preferences I lose the folder VST3 and this folder will not come back again until I delete (remove) all the scan path's except for the VST3 path. After that I have to put the other scan path's in one by one to get all the plugins and their corresponding directory's back in the browser.
Danny
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/20 13:11:48
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Thats pretty bizarre. Do you have your VST3's on a removable drive or something? If so perhaps that drive is going offline for some reason.
Once its scanned the plugins wont go away unless they are physically not available.
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cowboydan
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Re: Problems with VST Scan
2013/10/20 13:51:41
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I dont really know whats happening. I went into preferences and am only scanning the new or failed plugins. Not the existing ones. They havent disappeared yet so I guess this will work for now. All my plugins are on the same C drive as the program is.
Danny
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