Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix!

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2013/10/18 00:39:22 (permalink)

Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix!

Hey guys, i'm on Sonar 8.5! What is the easiest way to Flange an entire mix for a couple bars ....the last time i did this ('bout 7 years ago) it was a bit of a task ....i beleive i cut the entire mix to new tracks and a sub master fader for the Flange ......there must be a quicker way! 
 
I don't mind printing destructive audio ...i'll just save it under a different project name! 




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    scook
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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/18 00:46:35 (permalink)
    The simplest way would be to automate the flanger on the master bus. The plug-in should have either have an on/off or wet/dry setting.
    post edited by scook - 2013/10/18 00:48:10
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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/18 02:18:42 (permalink)
    ok ....i figured so ..i gotta learn how to automate a plug in ...




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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/18 02:41:47 (permalink)
    If anyone can teach me how do do this .....greatly appreciated! 
     




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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/18 09:01:26 (permalink)
    Here is a video showing how to create a volume envelop. Plug-in parameters can be automated in the same fashion.
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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/19 00:10:46 (permalink)
    oh sweet bro ...well i been doing volume envelopes for years ...didn't realize plugs worked the same ..thanks! 




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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/19 00:12:24 (permalink)
    holy crap ..so easy ...buss envelopes ...
     




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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/19 00:20:41 (permalink)
    ok ...so all i need to do is turn the plug on and off ....cake seems to have missed that option ....or have i?
     




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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/19 00:23:22 (permalink)
    Or you can automate the mix control from 100% dry to however much flange you want and then return to the dry.
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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/19 00:30:52 (permalink)
    Yep. It is easy when you know how. Even though the videos use X1, the techniques in Craig Anderton's two videos SONAR X1 Advanced Workshop and Advanced Workshop: The Next Level are really worth a look. The Vintage Tape Flanging technique describe in "The Next Level" video is a great trick using the Sonitus Modulator. I bet you might find the trick alone is work the cost of the videos. They are on sale cheap http://www.store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/category.aspx?categoryID=44&cat=44
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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/19 01:48:29 (permalink)
     
     
     
    post edited by sammyp - 2013/10/19 02:33:46




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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/19 02:11:08 (permalink)
    I am sorry you feel that way. I don't work for anybody at this time. When I typed my reply, message 8 and 9 were not posted so it appeared that you had figured out how to do what you wanted. Had post 8 been available, my subsequent post might have been different. Oh well, too bad you are so thin skinned. While the mix slider is all you need to get the wet/dry setting you need (see my post #2 wrt wet/dry) I thought you might find the technique described in Craig's video very interesting is all. Sorry for the insult, I will not bother with any more suggestions.
    post edited by scook - 2013/10/19 02:14:20
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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/19 02:13:03 (permalink)
    Look ...i'm gonna be straight up ...back in the day when someone asked for help ...a user would "spell" it out ....in sonar 8.5 i do not have a "wet dry" option in the buss envelope section ....
     
    being that i'm thin skinned ....i'll await for your step by step on how to automate the sonitus modulator on the mix buss ...just on/ off is all i need ! thanks 
     
    you have 6000 plus posts ...i assume this is easy? 
    post edited by sammyp - 2013/10/19 02:16:36




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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/19 02:16:16 (permalink)
    How would anyone know the parameter without knowing the effect? I guess it was my fault for trying to help in the first place. Don't worry, it will not happen again.
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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/19 02:17:57 (permalink)
    scook
    How would anyone know the parameter without knowing the effect? I guess it was my fault for trying to help in the first place. Don't worry, it will not happen again.




     
    the parameter? i want to enable the sonitus modulator for 4 bars on the "master"  buss then turn it off when the vocal begins? that's pretty straight up ...like any dance mix tune .....
     
    anyone? **** me silver ...
    post edited by sammyp - 2013/10/19 02:22:28




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    Re: Flange or Phase a few bars of entire mix! 2013/10/19 10:39:28 (permalink)

     
    Click the Write button 'W'
    Adjust the Mix Parameter from 0% to 100% for your 4 bars
    Click Write again to turn off Write Enable
     
    Adjust your envelope on the Master bus as required

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