Question for Big Fish Audio - KLI "Construction Kit" series users:

Hey all,
I've made quite a few purchases from Big Fish Audio over the years, including their KLI Construction Kit series.  If you don't know what those are, it would be simpler to go to BFA website and read about them, than for me to try and explain what they are and how they work.

Admittedly, I've never been a big user of loops when writing songs, I prefer samplers and creating the parts myself.  But when I'm in a writing slump or need some new ideas, I'll usually find great inspiration (and actual song parts) from these Construction Kits.
 
The way I've used these kits in the past is just to hold down the corresponding keys while recording via Kontakt on to Sonar.  But I find it clumsy and awkward to find the corresponding parts (verse, chorus, ending, for each instrument) that span across a full 88-key keyboard.  And then switching to a second continuous part LIVE is even more difficult.   I know I could lay down one track/instrument at a time, or move the corresponding audio loop into the timeline, but I can't help but feel I might be missing an easier way of doing this.

If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, I'd appreciate hearing them.  Thanks!!!

I too am considering to venture into KLI construction kits. I'm just curious if they are midi or wave files and can you use construction kits from other suppliers? I also have Melodyne but find it not so user friendly when it comes to manipulating loops.

I'm not sure I understand the original question correctly.  But if I do, you may be buying the wrong format.  I have virtually every KLI instrument Big Fish sells but I've bought them all in ACID/WAV format.  Sonar, more than any other DAW that I know, is just about perfect for working with audio wave files and acid loops.  With the time/pitch stretching capabilities and ability to audition loops at tempo and a million other tiny things like splitting at zero.  It's like it was designed just for that purpose.  Yes Sonar works with Kontakt just fine, but using loops in Kontakt is a pain.  Plus with audio loops you can visually see what you're getting and you can start and stop from any point within the loop.  For the same price, instead of buying Kontakt loops buy the acid loops.  Sorry that doesn't really help much.

Venturing into KLI (now version 3.0) myself. Not that much into loops but this KLI engine seems to unloop them, so to speak, and send them into sample territory. Any thoughts?

bapu,
That's exactly what I've been doing.  But it's time consuming, and I just thought there would be a quicker, easier way to work within Kontakt to lay down these samples.  You have to open up quite a few sub-windows in Kontakt to get the information of each sample.  For example, what part (verse, chorus, etc) each key corresponds to, the length of each sample, and what instrument it triggers.  Even with a dual screen setup, it's difficult to have all that information available and still play the parts live while the song is running.

The alternative, as you said, is find the files on your computer, and manually place them in Sonar.  It's much more precise, but more time consuming and not really how they are meant to be used.