Bus Folders? Is that a no go?

I've been on a big "Organization" kick lately, since some of the projects I'm working on are getting into some pretty high track counts.  I'm curious though, is there a reason why we can't put busses inside folders?  Folders help out a LOT on normal tracks, like grouping together 23 drum mics or whatever insane thing you want to group together.  And then if you want to clean up the screen, and make them all disappear once you finish working on drums, so you can focus on something, then with a single click, they all disappear until you decide to bring them back later.  (But you can still hear them of course the entire time).
 
The point is... Right now I have 7 drum busses (Overall Drums, Kick, Snare, Room, Toms, etc...)  Where multiple mics will be grouped together (Snare Top & Bottom, Kick Inside, Outside, Subkick, etc...)  But it would be nice to be able to put them into folders as well, so that I can "hide all Drum busses" with a single click, or "hide all guitar busses" with a single click... But I can't seem to figure out how to create folders down there.  (So I'm ASSUMING it's not possible?)  If it's NOT possible, is there a logical reason this feature has been omitted?
 
P.S.  I just now realized you can "rearrange" busses in the track view... For as long as I've been using Sonar, I've always been stuck with "when you add a new bus, it's stuck wherever you put it..."  So I'm pretty excited about my new found ability to rearrange busses.  But not being able to put them into folders, is sort of disappointing.

I would very much like to be able to do this as well. a big +1 from me for this feature request.

Etmos

AT
Putting every drum track on its own bus kinda negates the purpose of buses as originally designed. 

I agree, that's not what I meant though... When I said I have a "Snare" bus, I meant, there is a mic on top of the snare, and a mic on the bottom of the snare, and SOMETIMES maybe I'll have a reverb send specifically for the snare, etc... And then I'll pump ALL of those tracks, back into the "Snare" bus, so that I can control the volume of the "Snare" without having to adjust the volume of 3+ individual tracks.

Exactly. This is how I work as well.  Once I get the right sound from blending a combination of mics by adjusting tracks (e.g., snare top and snare bottom) I often end up mixing with buses (e.g., "snare").  This happens commonly for many instruments: two or mics on a guitar amp, kick in/out, snare top/bottom, bass mic/DI etc.  

markyzno
I would very much like to be able to do this as well. a big +1 from me for this feature request.

here is where you make a feature request
 
This forum is not the (formal) place that Cake develops it's product contents.

Etmos

 
Now if you can just tell me the hot key to create a folder to put my busses in, I'll be golden over here, ha...

No hot key but here is the link to the process to get bus folders created

Etmos

scook

No hot key but here is the link to the process to get bus folders created

I don't know if it's necessary enough for me to bother with an official feature request.  It's not THAT big of a deal.  

 
It only takes a minute so not really a bother.  Just copy and paste what you already wrote here, and maybe provide the link to the thread.  It is a very good idea.
 

I agree Etmos, that would come in handy at times.
 
Depending on the number of tracks, I may arrange my tracks into sub buses into buses into main buses into the master bus.
 
ie - snare tracks --> snare sub bus --> drum bus --> instrument bus --> MASTER BUS

joel77ie - snare tracks --> snare sub bus --> drum bus --> instrument bus --> MASTER BUS

 
Wow... that just seems over-complicated to my simple mind.
 

Cool about moving buses in the Console view.  I think I've hit a few keys while trying to move it, but it is easier to slide buses up and down in the bus TV rather than look up the answer.  And by the time I get to the forum Ive forgotten the question.  Now, if I can just remember the trick.  Of course, that means I'll forget something else - RAM full - like my name.  Life is a ****, and then you get old.  And forget.  What was I saying ...
 
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Etmos

neirbod
 
It only takes a minute so not really a bother.  Just copy and paste what you already wrote here, and maybe provide the link to the thread.  It is a very good idea.

Done and done.

Great.  Hope Cakewalks implements this.

bapu
Etmos,
 
In the rare occurrence where I might do what you are saying I tend to finally combine those drum buses into a final drums bus. I then organize all my buses in the following way:
 
Master
Vox->Master
Instruments->Master
Drums Master->Instrumenst
Bass Master->Instruments
Guitars Master->Instruments
Keys Master->Instruments
FxMaster->Master
Then I resize my bus pane in TV to only show the above buses for mixing purposes
.... from here on out I'll refer to drums only but the same holds true for guitars, keys etc
Kick  IN->Drums Master
Kick OUT->Drums Master
Kick SUB->Drums Master
SnareTop->Drums Master
SnareBottom->Drums Master
OH-Left->Drums Master
OH-Right->Drums Master
Drums Amb->Drums Master
Drums Verb->Drums Master
Snare Verb->Drums Master
etc....
 
 
Footnote: My workflow does not include using the CV. I'm a dedicated TV kind of guy. Many find that weird especially since I grew up using hardware consoles.
 

Hey Bapu
 
I do something very similar to this as well, at least in terms of having child busses that feed parent busses. My master bus is ultimately fed by a few busses (Drums, Vocals, Instruments, Bass), each of which may have one or more busses feeding those.  For a simple project I may just have the top layer of busses, but for more complex projects I may have two or three layers in the hierarchy.  
 
Even if a bus is somewhat redundant (typically the bass bus), I find that having a consistent organization makes it easy to navigate as well as solo busses at a particular "level".  I'd certainly like to see a bus folder to group my busses in this manner of use.
 
Feature request, that I have been meaning to do for a while now, is on its way...