Why are the VERY basic midi parameters in arrangement view missing in the X series?

Coming from 8.5.3, I'm looking for the very basic controls within the arrangement view like so :
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jhcizx4wubbiohw/8.5.jpg
 
Actually I'm missing the 2 essential ones, transpose and TIME SHIFT especially.
 
In X's I don't see them? How can I have them here and handy to quickly do all of the basic manipulation ?
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/szwpkbsb5blztri/xseries.jpg
 

Those two controls have been moved to the track inspector "P" in the illustration below from http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X3&Lang=EN&Req=Inspectors.3.html#1220713

wow Ok but the track inspector is a ''per track'' view, it's extremely restricting when you need a quick idea
of wich tracks are moved in time or in transposition, like so :
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3zo4t9312c5mwgv/practical.jpg
 
so is there a way to get this essential thing back? it's present in all daws, wether live or logic, quickly being able to
GLOBALLY view those parameters. Isn't there a user menu option to add it on the default strip?

I use midi pan on every project.
im not why you think that's obsolete sir.
 
and to be honest, I don't use transposition and timeshift much at all.
 
I think what were seeing here is a difference in user work habits.
it gets us all. there are things ive brought up that people say "why would you use that all the time"
I think cakewalk took a look the big picture, they cany please everyone so they sent out serveys to ask questions to its users, they used those serveys, along with collected data and ofcourse the big one "common sense" to try and please as many folks as possible.
 
 
moving from 8.5 I will give you the best advise anyone can...
1-get used to keyboard shortcuts, there the fastest way to work.
2-use the inspector, at first it will seem like a pain in the bum, after awhile you will be amazed at how useful it is and how many features are packed inside of it.
3-grab a groove 3 video of sonar x3 explained. cake TV also has some good videos on site.
http://www.cakewalk.com/CakeTV/SONARU.aspx/Get-Started

I think they found the majority of users were nt using it as much and that the inspector would be just as accessible.
I re edited my comment above, check it out. I left a link with videos. :)
 
youll get used to it, give it a chance Kewl  :) 

try looking at this
http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X3&Lang=EN&Req=Playback.34.html
 
see where it says strips ?
you may be able to add transpose, exc.

Kewl Hendagang
 How can I have them here and handy to quickly do all of the basic manipulation ?

Here is how

Brundlefy its a bug that prevents us from doing a global change of MIDI parameters.
 
 
 

I treated it as a Feature Request because it's not included in the list of parameters that can be quick-grouped. If something's not advertised to work, I don't consider it a bug that it doesn't.

in your opinion they may be "basic controls".. but that is simply your opinion...and not tested or supported by any valid data...
 
My personal data point is that I use midi in each and every project, and have done so from home studio 5 thru to Sonar 8.5.3 and x1-x3 and never once have I used transpose or timeshift...so to me,my opinion is that they are not basic at all.. while pan, volume, and velocity? yup that is the basic set.
 
 

Kewl Hendagang

brundlefly
I'm often with the chorus that say "get used to it; the new way works just as well or better",  but I'll beg to differ this time around for a couple of reasons:
 
1. Track widget selection is customizable, and I see no reason why the Bakers couldn't make Time and Pitch Offset available for those who want them.
 
2. Since Pitch Offset moved to the Inspector, it's no longer possible to select all MIDI tracks and make a group change to the Pitch Offset to transpose the whole project. The widget in Inspector doesn't honor quick-grouping. I filed a feature request on this quite a while ago.

Yes it's seems to be an odd step backward, it was perfectly done prior to the track inspector thing.
Those are such basic controls, why hide them like that.

again, its your opinion that they are basic controls.. should they be capable of being grouped? of course.. do they deserve front and centre billing on a midi track?.. I don't think so.

I like the way Steve has put things and I see it as something that wouldn't hurt as long as they are on the Inspector too.

what is this Dinosaur ?

John
I should add I like the MIDI parameters being in the track Inspector. It was a feature request of mine.  

well it's completely counter-logic, and counter-intuitive. why re-invent the wheel? it made sense in 8.5.3, it STILL makes
sense in Logic, in Live.

@OP:
I don't use those "very basic" parameters but I wouldn't mind Track Control adding them as options. So, I suggest sending in a feature request. And, if you're going to do it, please also request the ability to export/import the Track Control settings as a file.

Btw, Studio One doesn't even have the track/MIDI pan control in its track view, and some people call it the best daw in the world...

Also, when you use multi-timbre romplers like Kontakt, Sampletank, and TTS-1 the pan controls on the MIDI tracks allow you to tweak each part's pan without opening the plugin window or creating automation.