The demo project in X2

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2013/10/23 12:35:37 (permalink)

The demo project in X2

I hope someone can explain. The demo project in X2 has a boat load of effects and tracks in it. Far more than I ever have, and it plays back with the cpu meter running very low in use and very balanced across all 4 cores. I start a project of my own with a couple of soft synths and 2 guitar tracks and the cpu's first core always seems to spike out. Just to be fair I have the same thing happen in Studio One Artist. I have 2 different sound cards (not running at the same time) a Tascam US1800 and a Lexicon Lambda. Running either one will still give the same results. Any suggestions as to what I may need to do to try and get a more balanced cpu usage, as I can see that it is possible in the demo, I just can't seem to find that happiness with my setup.

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    Thatsastrat
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    Re: The demo project in X2 2013/10/23 15:55:23 (permalink)
    Bump!!!!!

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    Re: The demo project in X2 2013/10/24 08:10:00 (permalink)
    I saw this thread last night and it intrigued me. I'm surprised you didn't get any replies so I'll take a couple guesses and maybe the other guys can elaborate.
     
    One... what might be happening is that the demo's processing settings have been set up differently. Like it has the multi core option selected and all the other fancy stuff I don't understand (Core Parking?). I don't know if these settings effect all projects or can be set up on a per project basis but I'd take a look in the Preferences menus of the Demo and one of your own projects to see if anything is set up differently.
     
    The other thought that comes to mind (and again I don't know because I haven't looked at the demo in quite sometime nor do I know whether this would save CPU power) is maybe the demo audio is MP3 files which are more compact and maybe require less processing.
     
    Whatever it is if your system is spiking out on basic projects it'd probably be worthwhile to contact support to see if they can get things running a little more smoothly.
     
    Which reminds me I have to write up a letter for them myself. Maybe I'll produce a few more projects and write down glitches along the way first though.
     
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    Re: The demo project in X2 2013/10/24 11:02:12 (permalink)
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    I saw this thread last night and it intrigued me. I'm surprised you didn't get any replies so I'll take a couple guesses and maybe the other guys can elaborate.
     
    One... what might be happening is that the demo's processing settings have been set up differently. Like it has the multi core option selected and all the other fancy stuff I don't understand (Core Parking?). I don't know if these settings effect all projects or can be set up on a per project basis but I'd take a look in the Preferences menus of the Demo and one of your own projects to see if anything is set up differently.
     
    The other thought that comes to mind (and again I don't know because I haven't looked at the demo in quite sometime nor do I know whether this would save CPU power) is maybe the demo audio is MP3 files which are more compact and maybe require less processing.
      
    Whatever it is if your system is spiking out on basic projects it'd probably be worthwhile to contact support to see if they can get things running a little more smoothly.
     
    Which reminds me I have to write up a letter for them myself. Maybe I'll produce a few more projects and write down glitches along the way first though.
     
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    Thanks for responding Beep!
                It had never occurred to me to look at the preferences in the demo project.
    I had always assumed that the preferences were global, and not project specific. I will take a look and see if there is any thing to be learned. These cpu spikes started with X1 and X2, I really had no problems like this when I was on 8.5 using XP. I went for the upgrade to windows 8 and upgraded my interface to the US 1800 Tascam in hopes I would be making my experience better. And I am still trying.
    I would like to get this resolved, or managed before jumping to X3. Thanks!

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    Re: The demo project in X2 2013/10/24 11:15:06 (permalink)
    Another thing might be the demo uses a lower samplerate/bit depth than what you use for your own stuff. I'm not sure but I seem to recall they were at or around CD settings. But if something is preventing your system from spreading resources across your CPU cores tech could definitely help you there. I'm assuming that is an older CPU so you'd probably benefit from some optimization as I'm assuming the X series hogs a lot more juice than 8.5.
     
    Still that doesn't explain why resources are being handled differently between the demo and your own projects. Frankly all the little computer tech stuff that needs to be observed with audio bores and annoys me but sometimes it needs to be done just to get it out of your hair.
     
    Good luck.
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    Re: The demo project in X2 2013/10/24 12:08:44 (permalink)
    My only thought was that it might depend on the soft synth(s) you're using. The synths in the demo are pretty light weight so there isn't a big load on any one thread, but some synths might create a single, heavy-weight thread such that the load can't be distributed across cores.

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    Re: The demo project in X2 2013/10/24 12:29:04 (permalink)
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    My only thought was that it might depend on the soft synth(s) you're using. The synths in the demo are pretty light weight so there isn't a big load on any one thread, but some synths might create a single, heavy-weight thread such that the load can't be distributed across cores.




    Doesn't most of that load get tossed over to RAM? Then again he's running 32 bit on 4gb so I guess the resource allotment would be different even if that's the case. I however do not know much about such things.
     
    Any particular reason you went for 32bit, thatsastrat?
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    Re: The demo project in X2 2013/10/24 22:49:25 (permalink)
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    Any particular reason you went for 32bit, thatsastrat?

    Yeh! I have the 64 bit disk for windows 8 but no licence because I moved from windows XP 32 bit.
    So the upgrade didn't cover it. So I will need to save up for the licence for windows 8 64 bit. But I do have some other purchases that would need to be made before that happens.

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    Re: The demo project in X2 2013/10/25 12:10:23 (permalink)
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    Any particular reason you went for 32bit, thatsastrat?

    Yeh! I have the 64 bit disk for windows 8 but no licence because I moved from windows XP 32 bit.
    So the upgrade didn't cover it. So I will need to save up for the licence for windows 8 64 bit. But I do have some other purchases that would need to be made before that happens.




    I see. Well as far as I know upgrading to 64 bit won't do you much good unless you get more RAM as well so you may want to save up for both... if you have extra memory slots open that is.
     
    I have been known to be wrong though. Might want to start another thread to ask about such things. Perhaps in the Computers sub forum. IDK... I don't head down there that much. I probably should start. lol
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