East West play and sonar X1/X3

Hi guyz !!!
 
I just wanted to know how the Play engine plays with sonar X series .....any user here ? what do i need to know ?
 
Thks !

Play 3 works fine on my systems.
 
I've read a few horror stories about Play 4 so I won't be upgrading

I'm on Play 4 and haven't has any issues.

Well I personally would say don't get anything based on Play. I've had problems with it for a long time. Play 4 still gives me issues, whereas Kontakt doesn't. I love their samples but hate their software. So personally, I'd get something else. I own Goliath, SO Platinum, and Choirs and I would trade them in, despite their great sound, for other sample sets if I could.

well thks guyz , yep the word on that is 
 
Sound : Exellent
Support : ok at best
Stability : bad (play engine)
 
 

Double post.

Zo
Thks guyz ....students are thinking betweel K9 and E/W ....i validate K9 simply because it 's improved stable combo .....
 
Thks again ...

Not a problem, and I bought Komplete 9 recently just for that reason. I was tired of all the problems I was having with Play and so decided to try something else. Also, I still have a license for Colossus, which is Goliaths predecessor, and I can use that in Kontakt which is nice. In general the collection has some very nice instruments, not as good as what you get from East-West in some cases, but still good. For me, not having to mess around all the time making sure that there's no popster clicks in my export is quite worth it.
Basically with Play I would only recommend it to someone that already has a decent collection of samples and want something else to try. It may well be the you'd have no problems, but it certainly isn't the kind of thing you would want to get as your first major sample set because you very well might. Maybe someday East-West will get around to fixing Play and making it truly work well, but not so far.
Also there's the issue that it doesn't support really any editing of any kind. All the NI stuff supports heavy editing of instruments including sample mapping. Play only allows you to very basic controls, there's no ability to dig deeper if you need to. They've been promising Play Pro for years and years now, but there's been no movement on it. So as it stands there's no editing, and no certainty if we will ever be able to.
 

I use Play all the time in X2.  I can load the entire SO Gold at once with all the master keyswitch files with no problems.  

I'm not really sure what causes Plays issues. It isn't the sort of thing that happens for all people. However, it is definitely a problem that isn't just on my system if you look at their support forum you see a number of people have had problems with pops and clicks. The annoying thing is that there seems to be no way to solve it just by throwing hardware at it. In Play 3 it happened even when you had sample streaming from RAM. It was also consistent in where the clicks and pops happened in a given piece. With Play 4 it seems to be something that for me only happens when streaming from disk. However this shouldn't happen at all given that it is streaming from a dedicated SSD.
 
I wish I could trace what exactly is the problem, so I could tell them how to fix it. However it seems to be something that just occurs on some systems and not others. As such I tend to recommend against their products. Kontakt is rocksteady and has been for a long time. Even back in the Kompakt days, it worked well.
 
Maybe someday they'll either fix Play, or realize that it was a mistake and go back to something else. However I kind of doubt it.

Vastman
I've got loads of EWQL stuff and while it's quite wonderful and the play engine (3) works fine, the load times are horrendous...especially for their platinum products... I can make a cup of coffee waiting for songs to load using pianos and orchestral patches... 
 
but their stuff is beautiful sounding... 
 
my favorite is their "spaces" reverb.  It's better than anything I've ever used, and I must have a dozen of the "go to" verbs... never use um... in love with "spaces"

 
Tell me , the spaces reverb: does it have convos of units (plate emt 140 , lex ect ....) ?

I eq only just recently updated to Play 4 on my new studio PC on win 8.1.

All running ok but it's still early days just checking out things.

Hey, Zo!  new play engine 4.1.5 just came out yesterday... downloading now... half gig program... quite an update...although just mucked around for awhile with the last version and it sounds fine and much more responsive...
 
Maybe it's finally maturing... definately a lot easier to use than Kontakt!
 
Spaces... are real spaces and just beautiful (all the grand piano locations, orchestral halls...and much more, listed accordingly) plus lots of stuff like real plate reverbs from EW studios... I got lotz of verbs and only use Spaces... listen to any of the ewql demos... like their orchestral stuff... or choirs... all use elements of Spaces...