I have a RIGHT to say this....

I have started using Logic and so far I hate it.  In fact, I find myself exporting all the recorded tracks at the studio and mixing them down in Sonar.  I'm sure some of it is familiarity and experience, but I'm a person used to jumping from software to software.

What are the chances of two people having the same avatar like that? I'm putting my lottery numbers on this week. 

sharke..lots of people have this avatar because it is one of the default ones for us lazy folks.  maybe I should finally upload a real avatar

dubdisciple
sharke..lots of people have this avatar because it is one of the default ones for us lazy folks.  maybe I should finally upload a real avatar

Default avatars? I didn't even know there were any....

MIDIMINDS
As a LOOOONG time Logic user and having worked with EVERY major DAW to produce commercial recordings in nearly ever genre of music, I must admit that Cakewalk has succeeded in making me a convert.  Yeap...even in regard to the functions that I need in MIDI and scoring.  I know that other DAWs have their strengths.  But as far as a "one stop shop" to get 90+% of my work done, SONAR X3(c) now fulfills that need.
 
I would seriously advise a major (online) marketing campaign to make folks aware of the growth and features that are now part of the SONAR application. 
 
My hat is off to the bakers.  Genuinely a JOB WELL DONE!
 
Much continued success, guys ~
JG

Thanks for positive feedback. The best marketing campaign most of the time is word of mouth right? :)

MIDIMINDS
As a LOOOONG time Logic user and having worked with EVERY major DAW to produce commercial recordings in nearly ever genre of music, I must admit that Cakewalk has succeeded in making me a convert.  Yeap...even in regard to the functions that I need in MIDI and scoring.  I know that other DAWs have their strengths.  But as far as a "one stop shop" to get 90+% of my work done, SONAR X3(c) now fulfills that need.
 
I would seriously advise a major (online) marketing campaign to make folks aware of the growth and features that are now part of the SONAR application. 
 
My hat is off to the bakers.  Genuinely a JOB WELL DONE!
 
Much continued success, guys ~
JG

+1
Sonar X3 is the first daw since my logic 5.5.1 days, which completely (over-) fills this gap.
thanks cake

californiamusic
+1.  All X3 is missing is Clip Gain (Ala Pro Tools - Cubase visual style)  ; )

+1
and more sends in the console view

+1
 
I have seen a lot of posts over the X-series time frame that allude to "regardless of other applications that may get used, SONAR is used for final mixing..." I have only tried a couple (albeit dumbed down) versions of other DAWs that came with hardware, and I could not even stay in them long because nothing was intuitive to me, and right clicking on things to find functionality made things worse.
 
I often think of musicians who have never used a DAW at all (which is a big market)... if they were handed X3, would they be able to "create" quickly... skylight intimidates some, but the basics are all there.

sharke

dubdisciple
sharke..lots of people have this avatar because it is one of the default ones for us lazy folks.  maybe I should finally upload a real avatar

Default avatars? I didn't even know there were any....

lol, ya theres a handful of them.  :)

MIDIMINDS
As a LOOOONG time Logic user and having worked with EVERY major DAW to produce commercial recordings in nearly ever genre of music, I must admit that Cakewalk has succeeded in making me a convert.  

I'm really curios MIDIMINDS as a lot of producers in the EDM scene bang on about "Logic Pro" (yawn, yawn, yawn) but as I understand it, its MIDI implementation is either limited or not very good?
 
So why is it that a lot of producers use it?  Is it because it's an Apple thing as Mac users don't like Cubase or something?
 
I have noted that as it originally belonged to Emagic, it does have some really good VST (woops AU, as Apple don't do VST) effects & great sounding synth plug-ins even though the ES synths are about the most ugliest & un-user friendly synth interfaces I've ever seen...  :-D
 
One last thing, I agree with others on here, Cakewalk should market their products better as I also think it's an outstanding piece of software & in the UK/Europe, it probably has the smallest market share which is a great shame (I think even Ableton outsells Sonar).

californiamusic
+1.  All X3 is missing is Clip Gain (Ala Pro Tools - Cubase visual style)  ; )

 
The fact that Sonar has had clip gain for years, but many don't know (as is often demonstrated in these forums), says to me that the Sonar GUI needs to make it easier to find.

Pragi

MIDIMINDS
As a LOOOONG time Logic user and having worked with EVERY major DAW to produce commercial recordings in nearly ever genre of music, I must admit that Cakewalk has succeeded in making me a convert.  Yeap...even in regard to the functions that I need in MIDI and scoring.  I know that other DAWs have their strengths.  But as far as a "one stop shop" to get 90+% of my work done, SONAR X3(c) now fulfills that need.
 
I would seriously advise a major (online) marketing campaign to make folks aware of the growth and features that are now part of the SONAR application. 
 
My hat is off to the bakers.  Genuinely a JOB WELL DONE!
 
Much continued success, guys ~
JG

+1
Sonar X3 is the first daw since my logic 5.5.1 days, which completely (over-) fills this gap.
thanks cake

 
I totally agree. Same story here.

Grem

mettelus
 
I often think of musicians who have never used a DAW at all (which is a big market)... if they were handed X3, would they be able to "create" quickly...

A guitarist? Maybe.
 
Drummer? Definitely not! : )

LOL... I have to give you this one for sure! A funny aside to this is I went to Baltimore's Halloween festivities and was talking to some band folks and one of them shouted out that I was their hero because I convinced my drummer friend to buy a Roland TD-9 kit two years ago! The reason this happened was I had told the drummer, "There is NO way I am mic'ing up a standard kit!"

RickJP909
 
I'm really curios MIDIMINDS as a lot of producers in the EDM scene bang on about "Logic Pro" (yawn, yawn, yawn) but as I understand it, its MIDI implementation is either limited or not very good?
 
So why is it that a lot of producers use it?  Is it because it's an Apple thing as Mac users don't like Cubase or something?
 
I have noted that as it originally belonged to Emagic, it does have some really good VST (woops AU, as Apple don't do VST) effects & great sounding synth plug-ins even though the ES synths are about the most ugliest & un-user friendly synth interfaces I've ever seen...  :-D
 
One last thing, I agree with others on here, Cakewalk should market their products better as I also think it's an outstanding piece of software & in the UK/Europe, it probably has the smallest market share which is a great shame (I think even Ableton outsells Sonar).

IMHO, one of the strongest selling points of Logic is that it is all inclusive.  Right from the box, you have your DAW, VST (AU) Instruments (most of which are VERY good), processing plugins and file editors. Add another 40GB of loops/content and you've got a heck of a combination. At $200, that is a steal - period.  It also has some key modified functions that are common to the EDM scene that affords you quick editing.  Further, Logic is pretty darn stable.  So performing musicians often trust it enough to gig with.  
 
Where Apple has failed is in turning Logic into something that more resembles Garageband Pro.  Its simply cartoonish and, without going under the hood, isn't the type of functional interface I would want to engage for hours at a time.  When I do revert to Logic, it is to 9.1.8 not Pro X.
 
It biggest drawback is the dongle.  Ranging in size from 13-15" portable or 22"x22"x8" main studio and costing up to $4500 fully outfitted, the price of the PCs needed to run it are OUTRAGEOUS!
 
Hope that clarifies.
JG