Auto-Split Audio Track Question

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2013/10/31 15:08:22 (permalink)

Auto-Split Audio Track Question

Is it possible to "auto-split" an audio track into separate clips then save the clips within the track to separate audio files?
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    Bristol_Jonesey
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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/01 04:45:27 (permalink)
    Define what you mean by auto split.
     
    Surely there has to be some user action just to give Sonar some idea WHERE to split the clip.

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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/01 10:12:28 (permalink)
    The audio track is an hour long but there are short breaks where the volume drops to 'zero'.
    So, is there a setting that will 'auto-split' the track at these points?
    Or, do I need to set markers at the 'split points' and the tool, whatever it is, will split the track accordingly?
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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/01 10:16:12 (permalink)
    I manually split and slip edit tracks. I don't use the automated method although it should work for you.

    Set the focus on the clip and hit s to split at the now time.

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    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/01 11:34:23 (permalink)
    After you split the track is it possible to save each clip as a separate audio file?
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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/01 11:36:50 (permalink)
    One way is to select the clips, drag and drop them into a windows folder.
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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/01 16:09:08 (permalink)
    I thought as long as they were separate clips, they would be separate audio files in the Audio folder. No?
     
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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/01 19:40:25 (permalink)
    soens
    I thought as long as they were separate clips, they would be separate audio files in the Audio folder. No?

     
    No, the resulting clips after splitting are still only parts of original clip based on one single WAV file in the Audio folder.  To make them into separate clips each with its own WAV file, you need to select each one in turn and "bounce to clip".

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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/01 19:51:01 (permalink)
    Kev999,
     
    What does Apply Trimming do?
    http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X2&Lang=EN&Req=Menus2.114.html
     
    I thought this would make them into distinct wave files... no?

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/01 20:25:54 (permalink)
    gswitz
    What does Apply Trimming do?
    http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X2&Lang=EN&Req=Menus2.114.html
     
    I thought this would make them into distinct wave files... no?



    Maybe that's what you would expect, but it doesn't seem to work that way, i.e. Apply Trimming doesn't create a separate WAV file.  Try it and see.

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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/02 05:01:43 (permalink)
    Right. Trimming action will NOT create a new wave file.
     
    However, "Bounce to clips" will.
     
    So if you want to create a wav file for each new clip, you have to bounce it first. The reason is because when you "split" or "cut" a clip, you are actually copying or duplicating the entire clip. For this reason there are no additional wav files because they are all the same file, just repeated on the track.
     
    To see this for yourself, grab and slip the end of a split clip and you will see the original hidden wave forms reappear. They only become "individualized" when you bounce them.
     
    1) Split your clip into several parts.
    2) Bounce each part separately.
     
    You will now have individual wav files for each part in the Audio folder.
     
    They will be numbered sequentially:
    Song1, Track1, Mix(1) - original unbounced clip
    Song1, Track1, Mix(2) - 1st bounced clip
    Song1, Track1, Mix(3) - 2nd bounced clip
     
    Now "slip" either end of the new clips and there will be no additional wave forms. Bounced clips cannot be restored to their original size unless you use the "undo" function.
    post edited by soens - 2013/11/02 08:03:05
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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/02 05:48:47 (permalink)
    Thanks, all. I learned something here.
     
    If you have a tom track (drum hit seldom) and you split it so that only the 10 seconds during the song is the track playing, it would seem to reason that there would be an easy way to get all five 2 second clips bounced without having to select and bounce to clips 5 times. Just me.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/02 08:08:39 (permalink)
    If you bounce several clips on one track at the same time they will become one clip - one wav file.
     
    The only way I know of bouncing several clips individually at the same time is if they are on separate tracks.
     
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    Re: Auto-Split Audio Track Question 2013/11/02 09:55:06 (permalink)
    I believe if you hit edit/special. there are split options to add cross fades, split at silences,  EXC.
     
     
    http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X2&Lang=EN&Req=Dialogs2.108.html

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