studiodude1
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So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
Having really good performance with X3b here. Is X3c recommended, or are there enough issues to put it off for a bit?
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 05:14:08
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I fully recommend it. I downloaded it installed it and it is very nice indeed.
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 05:51:06
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If it ain't broken don't fix it?
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 06:01:11
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 06:01:55
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Is there any way to install the latest patch separately so that we can compare it with previous ones and can go back if, for example, a new bug is too serious to ignore?
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 06:05:06
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You can always roll back to a previous install, provided Cake haven't changed their update routine
You just need to drag the correct SONARPDR.exe file to the correct location (after moving the existing one)
But this won't let you do a direct comparison between versions.
Just install X3c and go with it unless it introduces problems. Then your first port of call should be here, and not go buggering about with old .exe files
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 06:09:25
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I agree that generally speaking it makes sense to update to the latest version because of bugfixes etc.
But the OP specifically states he's having really good performance with X3b, and we have seen a few people mentioning issues with X3c.
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 07:40:32
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Thanks. I'll install X3c.
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 08:59:31
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No issues with X3c here. CE's and EQ working fine.
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 09:01:12
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Geo524
No issues with X3c here. CE's and EQ working fine.
Do you have 64 bit double precision engine ticked in Preferences?
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 09:03:11
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BIG problems with CE here.
Back to X2b for now.
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 09:09:42
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Gregmang
Back to X3b for now.
Fixed for you. :)
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 09:37:36
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There will probably be more updates in time so it is good to try to stay up these releases. I am very impressed at the number of fixes for this release.
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 10:20:56
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Caution is not required when you have rollback :)
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 11:19:58
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Gregmang
BIG problems with CE here.
Back to X2b for now.
Diddo. I reported the CE buzz issue immediately after the "c" install. It's too troublesome to deal with (I use the CE on all tracks and busses) so I reverted back to "b" until Cake gets it sorted out. They are on it.
We'll not risk another frontal assault-that rabbit's dynamite!!!
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 11:59:26
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Installed X3c. I think the PRV snap is broken. Try changing the independent snap setting in PRV (toggle the triplet ones too) and move notes by mouse and you'll see. I thought I should investigate more but I need to go to bed now. I guess someone will post the issue by the morning. The N key behavior in the PRV is worse, too (the grid lines in the PRV get overwritten by the snap setting in the Control Bar's snap module).
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 13:16:43
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So, basically, it seems to be a "try it and see on your system" sort of deal. May be awesome / may suck.
Just in case it breaks something..... how do I roll back to X3b? Just reinstall the X3b update over top of the X3c update??
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 13:30:37
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I find X3c to be improved over all... I'm not sure about the CE issue, but I can say that snap is working fine... It's understanding the way it works that's a little different... See this thread:
PRV Snap Will Not Toggle On/Off is Global Snap If Disabled [Solved] (Sort Of?)
I can't seem to copy the link from this iPad...
...but the gist is that N controls toggling Global Snap which includes a subset control (if enabled) for the PRV... A touch of confusion about the lighted status of each, but understand that snap will only respond if N is enabled, and if you have the PRV snap enabled it will respond to those selections instead of the Global.... Works just fine and I believe at last has things properly connected... Grid follows snap finally follows the PRV Snap setting!
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 13:31:01
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☄ Helpfulby Keni 2013/11/01 13:53:54
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Installed X3c. I think the PRV snap is broken. Try changing the independent snap setting in PRV (toggle the triplet ones too) and move notes by mouse and you'll see. I thought I should investigate more but I need to go to bed now. I guess someone will post the issue by the morning. The N key behavior in the PRV is worse, too (the grid lines in the PRV get overwritten by the snap setting in the Control Bar's snap module).
I'm not seeing a problem with the actual snap behavior; it follows the PRV snap setting as expected if enabled, but the grid line resolution is defaulting to the Global setting after you toggle it on and off with N. You have to toggle the PRV resolution to reset the grid lines.
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 13:55:48
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BIG problems with CE here.
Back to X2b for now.
Diddo. I reported the CE buzz issue immediately after the "c" install. It's too troublesome to deal with (I use the CE on all tracks and busses) so I reverted back to "b" until Cake gets it sorted out. They are on it.
I have a problem with the Tape Sim giving the 60hrz hum, after a while. And I see it was addressed in the C patch. However, I am reluctant to install because I use Console Emulation (CE?) on almost every track! Is there something specific to this problem that it only effects a few? Or are many others reporting it too? So I'm waiting to see how this plays out before I install c.
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 13:56:00
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Jlien X
Installed X3c. I think the PRV snap is broken. Try changing the independent snap setting in PRV (toggle the triplet ones too) and move notes by mouse and you'll see. I thought I should investigate more but I need to go to bed now. I guess someone will post the issue by the morning. The N key behavior in the PRV is worse, too (the grid lines in the PRV get overwritten by the snap setting in the Control Bar's snap module).
I'm not seeing a problem with the actual snap behavior; it follows the PRV snap setting as expected if enabled, but the grid line resolution is defaulting to the Global setting after you toggle it on and off with N. You have to toggle the PRV resolution to reset the grid lines.
Ahhh... Thanks for that brundlefly... I had trouble to begin with, then thought it was working fine, then found something wrong again... You've nailed it. Thanks.... that's a somewhat "little" bug thats better than before as previously (for me) it always followed the Global instead of the PRV... Keni
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 13:58:11
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BIG problems with CE here.
Back to X2b for now.
Diddo. I reported the CE buzz issue immediately after the "c" install. It's too troublesome to deal with (I use the CE on all tracks and busses) so I reverted back to "b" until Cake gets it sorted out. They are on it.
I have a problem with the Tape Sim giving the 60hrz hum, after a while. And I see it was addressed in the C patch.
However, I am reluctant to install because I use Console Emulation (CE?) on almost every track! Is there something specific to this problem that it only effects a few? Or are many others reporting it too?
So I'm waiting to see how this plays out before I install c.
I use Console Emulation on (essentially) all my projects.... I'm not experiencing any such issue... Keni
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Re: So.... Is the new X3c update recommended?
2013/11/01 14:13:32
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Keni
I use Console Emulation on (essentially) all my projects.... I'm not experiencing any such issue...
From Brando : "If you are using stereo tracks exclusively with the console emu's I don't think you'll get the hum [buzz]. If you have mono tracks with console emu enabled, turn off 64 bit DP engine is the work around." From brundlefly : "Yes, this appears to solve the problem, but only after the project is reloaded with Double Precision disabled. Enabling Double Precision will precipitate the problem immediately (on some tracks), but disabling it requires a reload for the "cure" to take effect."
post edited by Paul P - 2013/11/01 14:34:24
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