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2013/11/06 01:02:30 (permalink)

What I find really strange when using drum maps with Superior Drummer 2.0.......

is the fact that you can load up a groove and play it within the SD UI and solo any drum sound you want in the CV.  But once you drag the groove into the SD midi track in the TV and play the groove....you can no longer solo the drum pieces.
 
For some reason this just doesn't make sense to me.  If you can solo the different drum instruments when playing a groove from within the synth...they should still solo when playing from the TV.  It is still playing the same samples....using the same routing.
 
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Re: What I find really strange when using drum maps with Superior Drummer 2.0....... 2013/11/06 02:03:58 (permalink)
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Re: What I find really strange when using drum maps with Superior Drummer 2.0....... 2013/11/06 02:24:12 (permalink)
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No I have not noticed this , I`m able to solo whatever drum piece also after importing the groove .
Here is a video snippet http://www.screencast.com/t/cM8xmu8T
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It's not evident from your video, but this only works if you're not using a Drum Map which is what the OP was asking about.
 
Adding a drum map isolates the MIDI track from the synth so that SONAR no longer automatically solos the MIDI track when an audio output is soloed. And when an audio output is soloed without the MIDI track also being soloed, no output is generated by the synth. This is a shortcoming of Drum Maps. When the synth is being driven by an internal pattern, output continues to be generated when the audio track is soloed.
 
Manually soloing the MIDI track solves the problem. Using Solo Override on the MIDI track may also be helpful, depending on the situation.
 
 

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Re: What I find really strange when using drum maps with Superior Drummer 2.0....... 2013/11/06 02:40:03 (permalink)
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jps
No I have not noticed this , I`m able to solo whatever drum piece also after importing the groove .
Here is a video snippet http://www.screencast.com/t/cM8xmu8T
All the best
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It's not evident from your video, but this only works if you're not using a Drum Map which is what the OP was asking about.
 
Adding a drum map isolates the MIDI track from the synth so that SONAR no longer automatically solos the MIDI track when an audio output is soloed. And when an audio output is soloed without the MIDI track also being soloed, no output is generated by the synth. This is a shortcoming of Drum Maps. When the synth is being driven by an internal pattern, output continues to be generated when the audio track is soloed.
 
Manually soloing the MIDI track solves the problem. Using Solo Override on the MIDI track may also be helpful, depending on the situation.
 
 




Ah , sorry . I will delete my post . 
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Re: What I find really strange when using drum maps with Superior Drummer 2.0....... 2013/11/06 02:42:50 (permalink)
No need. It's all part of the forum process. Someone might still find your video enlightening in other ways. You can just add a comment that you missed the part about drum maps. I often make edits like that to my own mistaken posts. 

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Re: What I find really strange when using drum maps with Superior Drummer 2.0....... 2013/11/06 07:26:25 (permalink)

Manually soloing the MIDI track solves the problem. Using Solo Override on the MIDI track may also be helpful, depending on the situation.
I usually "group" the solo button on the Superior MIDI track and the instrument track - so when I press one, they both get pressed. ;-)



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Re: What I find really strange when using drum maps with Superior Drummer 2.0....... 2013/11/06 08:40:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Guitarmech111 2013/11/06 09:51:15
Superior Drummer has it's own basic midi engine inside of it.  That midi engine controls playback of the grooves inside of the browser and Superior Drummer allows the user certain control over it.  Things like soloing specific kit pieces or even previewing the grooves at their original tempos, for example.
 
Once you pull the groove out of Superior Drummer, it becomes the DAW software's property and it's totally under the host's control from there.
However, if you want to hear a specific instrument, you still should be able to do that by accessing Superior Drummer's internal mixer and soloing that particular instrument from there. 

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Re: What I find really strange when using drum maps with Superior Drummer 2.0....... 2013/11/06 09:53:14 (permalink)
I used to break out all midi into each instruments individual note track with a CAL routine. When you add a SD synth to your project, you should be able to break out each piece/mic setup to an individual track. With that being said, it make a GUI mess of the project. Dave' suggestion is far better. :)
 

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Re: What I find really strange when using drum maps with Superior Drummer 2.0....... 2013/11/06 10:07:00 (permalink)
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I used to break out all midi into each instruments individual note track with a CAL routine. When you add a SD synth to your project, you should be able to break out each piece/mic setup to an individual track. With that being said, it make a GUI mess of the project. Dave' suggestion is far better. :)
 


Superior Drummer will not only allow you to preview a particular kit piece in it's browser but you can also DnD only the individual kit piece if you want to split up your midi drummer's performance into individual midi tracks.  Me, I think that would be more work than it's worth but there are people who like total control of everything.

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Re: What I find really strange when using drum maps with Superior Drummer 2.0....... 2013/11/06 10:40:15 (permalink)
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I usually "group" the solo button on the Superior MIDI track and the instrument track - so when I press one, they both get pressed. ;-)

 
This works if you're only using a single output or never want to individually solo multiple outputs.
 

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Re: What I find really strange when using drum maps with Superior Drummer 2.0....... 2013/11/07 04:10:17 (permalink)
One way around the drum map limitation is to place all of your drum tracks - midi & audio - into a folder and use the folders mute/solo buttons.
You can then use the mute/solo buttons in the drum map prv

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