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64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
Hi, guys,
Figure this one out! In the 32 bit version of X3, Melodyne is on the list in region FX and loads into the Skylight window. BUT, in the 64 bit version the only way I can get it to even come up is to load it in the synth rack! Is this the way it's supposed to work in 64 bit? It shows up on the Rewire list and can open it there as well.
Sorry to bother you but this is my first encounter with Melodyne.
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Sidroe
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 09:18:34
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BTW, in 64 bit, Melodyne does NOT show up in the region FX list. Also the 32 bit version is used as a plugin in the FX rack. I added the Celemony folder to the list of folders to scan and it scanned correctly. I'm just confused about the major difference in using them.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 09:26:50
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Are you in X3c in 64-bit? It will only show up as a Region FX option in ARA mode (only X3). 64-bit is preferred, and will open there.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 09:37:32
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Maybe the 64-bit Melodyne needs a separate install.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 09:40:17
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Do you need separately configure it as "Tempo based FX" in 64 bit version as earlier? Or does that part concern the integrated versions at all?
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Sidroe
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 10:00:00
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I checked the versions and it is showing 64 bit version in 64 bit Sonar X3c and 32 bit version in 32 bit Sonar X3c. Where do I check to configure as a tempo based FX?
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 12:31:25
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That configuration drop-down was in the Plugin Manager somewhere (not at my DAW now). But I'm on 8.5 still so my info might be outdated (?). Anyway, Melodyne had to be configured as "Time based plugin" (or FX?) before it worked. Or was it "Tempo based", but time related anyway :o/
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 13:05:43
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Have you checked that C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3 and C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\VST3 is being scanned? Dan
post edited by dke - 2013/11/10 17:11:53
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Sidroe
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 14:07:21
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I finally remembered how to set the tempo based setting. Still no luck! I am running the upgraded version Melodyne SingleTrack. Could that have something to do with it? It is shown in the 32 and 64 bit Celemony folders as a Melodyne ReWire device dll. I'm wondering if I should uninstall this upgrade and re-install the version in the X3 installation. The 32 bit version works fine in both versions but the 64 bit version is only ReWire capable. It still works. It's just not integrated in to the Skylight like the 32 bit version. Weird stuff!
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 15:07:14
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Make sure that Melodyne 64bit is the VST3 version - in the \Common Files folder as mentioned above.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 15:30:51
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Located the common folder in 64 and there is a dll named mw2.dll in it. Scanned it and still no go.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 15:32:03
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I have no vst3 plugins showing at all.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 16:04:02
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 16:44:53
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The file is named melodyne.vst3 and should be in the common files\vst3\celemony directory. As I posted above if that is not in your scan path you are not getting the vst3 file needed for ARA. Dan
post edited by dke - 2013/11/10 17:11:24
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 17:01:59
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^^^^
You need the VST version of Melodyne for ARA integration. Why that version isn't there would be the question... so perhaps a MD reinstall is in order.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 17:10:24
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Since I already had Melodyne I don't know if it automatically installs with Sonar.
Regardless, reinstall Melodyne or install the upgrade if you don't have v2.1.2 and make sure that the 64 bit components are selected for installation.
Including the VST3 version which is required for ARA.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 20:27:27
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I uninstalled the updated version 2.1.2 and reinstalled the 2.1.1 version that comes with X3a. It still shows the same behavior. I can use the 32 bit vst and the rewire version in x3 32 bit. I can load it as a region effect as well. The 64 bit version of X3 allows the 32 bit Melodyne in the FX rack on a channel but the 64 bit is only loaded as a rewire plug. No region effect in 64 bit X3c. This is the same exact way the upgraded 2.1.2 acted. Tried tempo based settings. Still no good. Everything is working. I just can't get 64 bit version to even show up on the region FX list.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 21:14:32
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Verify the installed Melodyne components by: - Running the installer of the current version
You should see a screen that asks if you want to Modify, Repair, or Remove.
 - Check Modify and click Next
- Check the list of what is installed.
Are the 64 bit items checked?
Is the 64 bit VST 3 version checked?
Ignore the AAX version. I have it checked in the image, but Sonar can't use it.
post edited by TheSteven - 2013/11/10 21:30:41
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/10 21:47:13
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You may have to reset your VSTs under Preferences then do a rescan. Just a hunch.
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Sidroe
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/11 09:38:15
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I have already been thru the steps you posted twice. No Go. In the Common files folder in the 64 bit Program Files, I found the Celemony folder and inside that folder is an X64 folder that contains a file named "MW2.dll". No MelodyneVST3 anywhere. As I said the 32 bit version is fine. I have the Melodyne vst, the Melodyne ReWire, and it shows up in the Region FX menu. It's just the 64 bit version that I can only get the Melodyne ReWire and the 32 bit vst. No 64 bit other than ReWire.
One more question and I will contact Celemony about this problem. Do I have to uninstall 2.1.1 to install 2.1.2 or will it just update if I run it? Thanks for the help guys. I have had more problems with Melodyne installation than anything ever in Cake so I guess I can't complain.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/11 09:53:18
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Mine updated without reinstall.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/11 10:11:34
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I need to look to see if Melodyne is available as a plug. I'm using it with the ARA integration on individual tracks. With no additional steps on my part, X3 found Melodyne Editor on my setup.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/11 11:40:20
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I need to look to see if Melodyne is available as a plug. I'm using it with the ARA integration on individual tracks. With no additional steps on my part, X3 found Melodyne Editor on my setup.
That's because while VST3s can be installed in a designated location they are also installed in the system folder C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3 or C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\VST3 So if Sonar doesn't find a VST3 in your scan path it will, depending on if your system is 32 or 64 bit, check one of the above system folders. Sidroe - did you check to see if Melodyne.vst3 was inC:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Celemony\Melodyne ? ...Steven
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/11 12:19:00
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THANKS, THE STEVEN! I finally found that folder in 64 bit, added it, scanned it, HOLY CRAP! It finally shows up on region FX! I love this place. If it wasn't for this kind of help I find here, I'd still be scratching my head. Thanks, everyone for your kindness and your time.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/11 12:36:00
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Sidroe glad you up & running!
I just checked my scan paths for my 64bit X3 and
C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3
is there. I don't recall manually adding it, perhaps the installer put it in.
I thought the X3 VST Scanner automatically scanned that system folder, guess not.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/11 13:13:25
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I had to manually add the 64 bit folder in the scan before Sonar would see it. The installation seemed to have automatically put it in the 32 bit Sonar but not the 64 version. At any rate, I thank you again for your help. I hope I can repay you someday.
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Re: 64 bit Melodyne will only load in synth rack!
2013/11/11 13:14:32
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BTW, I did update with no problems to 2.1.2.
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