X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one.

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X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one.

Could have sworn there was a simple Deesser plug which I must have imagined and I just poked around some of the Sonitus stuff but can't recall which one(s) have a deesser setting. I don't really want to load the tracks up with the Vintage Channel (guitar tracks... lots and lots of guitar tracks).
 
Perhaps one of you fine gentlemen could refresh my memory? Thanks.
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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 16:59:22 (permalink)
    Vocal strip? (VX64)

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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 17:04:57 (permalink)
    Thanks sharke. Trying to avoid the really heavy duty/resource hungry ones for track by track use though. Not even sure it'll do much for these guits but thought I give it a try. Not sure how effective a deesser would be on a bus considering it seems like something that should be focused on specific frequencies of specific tracks.
     
    Meh. They do already sound pretty slick (everything I do aside from HP/LP/notch filtering takes away from the sound). Probably overthinking it as usual. Just wanted to experiment. Cheers.
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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 17:11:18 (permalink)
    Okay... I think these are fine as is with just the EQ tweaks. Still curious about a simple Deesser though. I could swear one of the Sonitus plugs had one.
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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 17:14:47 (permalink)
    You could use the Sonitus Multiband Compressor as a de-esser. Here is an old knowledge base article about it http://www.cakewalk.com/s...reader.aspx/2007013063
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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 17:24:36 (permalink)
    With the VX64 you just need to turn on the section you need. 

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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 17:28:31 (permalink)
    scook
    You could use the Sonitus Multiband Compressor as a de-esser. Here is an old knowledge base article about it http://www.cakewalk.com/s...reader.aspx/2007013063





    Thanks, scook. I am familiar with that technique but didn't have a text based tut so that's been bookmarked. I was going to give that a try if I couldn't find this imaginary deesser I seem to have dreamed up (lol... I must be going crazy-er). For these specific tracks though I think I've got with just the EQ. Kind of surprised me actually but I guess there's a reason I love TH2 so much. Very easy to work with. If I was GR I'd probably be doing all sorts of wacky stuff to get it how I like.
     
    One thing I did too was turn the TH2 gate completely off since there isn't any "silence" after I trimmed it all. It was having more of an effect on the signal than I thought but when I originally set these tracks up last year I HAD to turn up to where it was to get the noise down. Figured I had to leave it that way but apparently not. Hooray!
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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 17:31:40 (permalink)
    John
    With the VX64 you just need to turn on the section you need. 




    Hi, John. Does having other elements of the plug turned off save a significant amount of processing power? Cheers.
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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 17:36:57 (permalink)
    It should Beep.

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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 17:37:45 (permalink)
    Right on. I'll keep that in mind. Cheers.
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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 17:46:21 (permalink)
    I can't say that I've ever found the VX-64 to be resource hungry.  Quite the opposite.
     
    Are you sure you're not confusing it with the LP-64, which is?

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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 17:50:36 (permalink)
    If you're thinking of Craig's video "Sweetening Amp Sims with De-Essing", he used the De-Esser in the VC-64.

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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 18:05:37 (permalink)
    Cool. I'll check it out and see how much of a hit the system takes (this project is already running pretty hot). It might do something more beneficial for the leads. The notching and LP/HP really got what little "siminess" of the tracks which is very cool. I'm so obsessive about my guitar sound that I can spend forever trying to get things right if they aren't exactly how I like. Cheers.
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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/12 18:10:00 (permalink)
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    Thanks sharke. Trying to avoid the really heavy duty/resource hungry ones for track by track use though.



    I'm pretty sure the VX vocal strip is pretty lightweight. I use it all the time, on all kinds of sources. It's really handy for getting unwanted hi hat signal out of other drum mics. So I often have quite a number of instances of it running.

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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/13 02:04:25 (permalink)
    Have you gone with X3 yet Beepster? There's a de-esser in the Nomad Factory Blue Tubes package.
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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/13 02:07:57 (permalink)
    The VC-64 also has a very good de-esser in it.

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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/13 04:22:35 (permalink)
    Beep, try these:
     
    http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.php?item=2&subItem=5
     
    They are very lightweight and actually do a fine job.
     
    Spitfish is the one you want, but you might as well download the lot, as they are all free!

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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/13 07:48:10 (permalink)
    I made a preset for the sonitus multiband that has all the bands squished into the high range (except the lowest which stretches all the way across and I disabled) This gives me 4 bands of deessing for those really problematic vocalists.  The wonderful thing about it is that it does NOTHING unless there is a frequency spike in the region each band covers.  It covers "s", "sh", "t", gopher whistle, you name it.
    It has become my go to de esser for sibilant vocalists (not for regular vocalists). 
    It would probable also work well as a guitar mellower/warmer.
     
    I tried to do the same thing with the LP multiband, but it LITERALLY fought me on it.
     
    So far, the Nomad one seems decent.  
     
    Also, I agree that the VC64 is not at all a resource hog.  Very efficient.  Using just the de esser should be almost no drag at all.
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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/13 10:23:36 (permalink)
    Spitfish was great - but 32-bit only - and its settings often do not save correctly in Sonar 64-bit versions.
    Try the new SPL de-esser plug-in; it costs $100, but it is VST-3 and 64-bit.
     
    Works very well in Sonar.
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    Re: X2: Oh boy. I can't seem to find a straight up Deesser or recall which plugs have one. 2013/11/13 12:00:02 (permalink)
    You could also use a regular Sonitus comp with an EQd side chain input. That's basically what a de-esser is.
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