Does anybody have any idea?
 

Have a look MIDIOX

  http://www.midiox.com/ 

May be it does what you need!
P/S: for some reasons, I couldn't get the direct link here!
 
Good luck!
 

Hi ramtin as usual an interesting problem! To those reading this thread I think the OP refers to being able to create a style of your own and somehow get it back into the Technics keyboard as some form of user style then.
 
I would start by trying to get the styles out of “Style works XT Universal” perhaps in the form of sysex dumps into your Technics. If it can generate a file that the Technics will recognise then sending styles across may be a possibility. Remember the keyboard can send certain parts of its memory to a sequencer or midi data program such as MidiOx, and get it back so that is one way to do it.
 
There may be another way in your Technics to somehow put it into record style mode and record the incoming midi data. You would have to sync the Technics clock wise to your sequencer. There is a mode when you are creating styles that is real time. The idea is you play in live your parts. However I bet any incoming midi data is also recorded. You might have to create the style in Style Worx or Sonar. Then use the sequencer to play back various parts of the styles one by one while those sections are put into real time record mode.  Just some ideas. I will check the manual a bit further.
 
 

jbraner
I don't really understand what you're trying to do (because your "style" looks like a MIDI sequence) but you can definitely record Sysex into SONAR - and also send it to any MIDI device.

Read the manual (I'm not being funny, but I don't know what level you're at, or where to start explaining) and check your MIDI settings in "Preferences" to make sure that send/receive Sysex is enabled.

basically, you just set SONAR to record, then press some button combination ( you need to check your keyboard's manual) to send a Sysex dump. Then the Sysex info is part of the SONAR file - so you can send it out to any other keyboard - when you hit "play".

BUT - I don't know if this is actually what you want to do...

Dear jbraner,
Thank you very much.I got that you are serious to help me on this problem.I am exactly going to transfer a style which has already created by "Style works Xt universal" to my keyboard "Tecknics SX KN 1000".

Regards
Ramtin

Jeff Evans
Hi ramtin as usual an interesting problem! To those reading this thread I think the OP refers to being able to create a style of your own and somehow get it back into the Technics keyboard as some form of user style then.

 
 Hi dear Jeff,Yes It is a new challenge,and I am serious to be overcome by using advice of wise friends like you.
 

Jeff Evans
I would start by trying to get the styles out of “Style works XT Universal” perhaps in the form of sysex dumps into your Technics. If it can generate a file that the Technics will recognise then sending styles across may be a possibility. Remember the keyboard can send certain parts of its memory to a sequencer or midi data program such as MidiOx, and get it back so that is one way to do it.
 

 
Actually I had tried it Before,But it output was Style format with ".cpm" extension and Midi and GM file with ".mdi" extention.I really hope you can find an Syx output compatible with "Technics sx kn 1000" keyboard and if it happens the Problem will solve.
 

Jeff Evans
There may be another way in your Technics to somehow put it into record style mode and record the incoming midi data. You would have to sync the Technics clock wise to your sequencer. There is a mode when you are creating styles that is real time. The idea is you play in live your parts. However I bet any incoming midi data is also recorded. You might have to create the style in Style Worx or Sonar. Then use the sequencer to play back various parts of the styles one by one while those sections are put into real time record mode.  Just some ideas. I will check the manual a bit further.

It is so practical approach that I had experienced it before. In case that, I cannot find any other way I have to come back to it.
On this method, I have to record 7 times, track by track, on real-time composer mode to fill "Drum" ,"Base", "acc1", "acc2","acc3","poly1","poly2".There are two restrictions.

1. It is so time consumable 
2. It is hard to match the measures on real-time mode.

Therefore, I have to find a better way to transfer the created style in the PC to my keyboard!
Regards,
Ramtin
 

Dear Jeff,
I can set My keyboard clock.But can I ask you how can I set Sonar x1 to send midi clock out the midi port that is feeding My Technics and ultimately apply your method? I think that I have to open the style by midi format and set the ports of each track corresponded to my keyboard.My keyboard style is filling one by one for example 1-drums 2-base 3-acomp1,.....
Can you please explain more?
Thanks in advance

ramtin

LHong
Have a look MIDIOX

  http://www.midiox.com/ 

May be it does what you need!
P/S: for some reasons, I couldn't get the direct link here!
 
Good luck!
 

Dear LHong,
Thanks for your offer, 
I have already used the software.But had'nt seen any option for this particular case, in Midi-ox Tabs,If you Know any option there which can help me on the case please do the favor to me
Regards
Ramtin
 

Basically, the MIDIOX is an application that allows you to transfer from SysEx file (.syx) or from Text editor data to your MIDI keyboard as "SysEx Dump".
In your case as Style files (.sty or .cpm), which is similar to (8-16 tracks) MIDI file format and contained the MIDI track's marker to determine what the parts in the keyboard style to work, such as Intro, main, fill or end, etc...you could simply import the styles to Sonar for MIDI editing as needed.
 
What you will also need is an utility of MIDI to Sysex can be found as follows. It allows to convert the styles (or MIDI file) to SysEx (.syx). Then you can use MIDIOX -> load file -> send Sysex.

 http://www.bwalk.com.au/MidiUtil/SyxToMidi.zip  

Home page:

 http://www.bwalk.com.au/MidiUtil/FileConvert.html  

 
An alternative MIDIOX is sendsx from Bome

 http://www.bome.com/products/sendsx 

 
Hope this helps!
 

Good question!
I think the "MIDI to SYSEX" Utility just does trans-coding (whether style or not)!

It might be good idea to keep original style format instead of converting "style to midi".
How about try to convert directly from the style file by changing extension to .mid from .sty or .cpm.
 
 
 

Sorry to hear it! I don't have Technics Keyboard nor those utilities with me at the moment!
Look likes you need more specific "Style to SysEx file conversion" for your Technics keyboard to work properly! Just wondering how other people do, in order to get the "SN1000 style file" to work? From Floppy Drive?
 

 your advice, changing extension to .mid from .sty or .cpm is not applicable,

Edit: It seems be OK (created .syx output file), when I tried the Yamaha Tyros style (.STY) renamed to .mid and ran "MIDI to Sysex" utility! Not sure about the .CMP Style file since I don't own any!
Have a look  the example as follows:
Input style file (original before rename to .mid):

 http://www.mediafire.com/?63e871sfna2idzp 

Output Sysex file:

 http://www.mediafire.com/?3a1wm2wh32jsw98 

Any ideas?
 
 

LHong
Sorry to hear it! I don't have Technics Keyboard nor those utilities with me at the moment!
Look likes you need more specific "Style to SysEx file conversion" for your Technics keyboard to work properly! Just wondering how other people do, in order to get the "SN1000 style file" to work? From Floppy Drive?
 

 your advice, changing extension to .mid from .sty or .cpm is not applicable,

Edit: It seems be OK (created .syx output file), when I tried the Yamaha Tyros style (.STY) renamed to .mid and ran "MIDI to Sysex" utility! Not sure about the .CMP Style file since I don't own any!
Have a look  the example as follows:
Input style file (original before rename to .mid):

 http://www.mediafire.com/?63e871sfna2idzp 

Output Sysex file:

 http://www.mediafire.com/?3a1wm2wh32jsw98 

Any ideas?
 
 

Dear LHong,
Thanks for your support,I was not able to check your solution because

1.  Mediafire did not respond when I was going to download your result,and the following masage was appeared:

   MediaFire will be right back!

2. The software which I had downloaded was not trial version and asked me for donate.

Regards
Ramtin
 

 
Dear Lhong,
I downloaded the Sysex files and opened it in Midi-ox. It seems that it is ok, but I am not insure. Did you try to transfer the Sysex to tyros, after you converted it from Style format?
If your Method works, it would be a great achievement for all workstation arranger user!
 
 

LHong
 The software which I had downloaded was not trial version and asked me for donate
"MIDIOX" and "MIDI to SYSEX" are FREE! "Donation" is up to you, I think!
 

 
"Midi to Sysex" is not run without donate, please follow the link
 https://www.paypal.com/au/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=pSne25wv1IDNF-CZ-LXghgyjP4xT3JjIdpEoQ5OChILXm81PrPLxVXlauQS&dispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8def8934b92a630e40b7fef61ab7e9fe63
 
If you were able to send the converted Sysx file through cable, Thus, I can do it in Technics Sx Kn 1000.
Can I ask you to put the free version of "midi to Sysex" in "Mediafire" To download? Then I would be able to myself test the matter. 
 
Regard
Ramtin 
 

Thanks, I will check and com back to you

LHong
Here you go - you should be able to get files as follows (Right click link -> save file as) - let me know!Style input (rename it to .mid before to convert)

 <a href="http://hotfile.com/dl/254627850/eb0778d/AllNightTyrosStyle.sty.html">http://hotfile.com/dl/254627850/eb0778d/AllNightTyrosStyle.sty.html </a></p>
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Sysex output:

 <a href="http://hotfile.com/dl/254627762/a6bedae/AllNightTyrosStyle.SYX.html">http://hotfile.com/dl/254627762/a6bedae/AllNightTyrosStyle.SYX.html</a></p>
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The software which I had downloaded was not trial version and asked me for donate.

"MIDIOX" and "MIDI to SYSEX" are FREE! "Donation" is up to you, I think! 

I download the file .l cannot use it before donation
Regards
Ramtin

Hi, Jeff,
I had read the manual regarding drum map and found it as a strong function that can help me to perform GM song through my keyboard (Technics SX KN 1000).I have already done the follows:
1)     Go to Edit > Preferences > MIDI - Instruments.
2)     Import Technics 1000 Bank and Technics 1000 Drum which already had downloaded from cakewalk website. And set the port of midi track to Technics 1000 bank
3)     Set drum track in My keyboard to channel 10.
4)     Go to Edit > Preferences > MIDI - Drum Map Manager
5)     Create a new Map
6)     Go to preset box to find Technics KN 1000 drum map (It Is not available. From Technics series just KN 2000 is existed)
7)     Therefore, I choose Default from preset box.
 
Now I have to change the Note Out (Technics KN 1000) to get compatible with Note In (General Midi) for each patch,
I tried to match the Note In and Note out by ear. By Pressing Shift+Space I hear Note In patch from laptop speaker/headphone and try to find the compatible percussion note in Keyboard(Technics 1000) to fill the note number in Note Out cell. I have prepared a table to match GM percussion (Note IN) with Technics KN1000 Percussion (NoteOut) using similarity value and name of patchs.

 
http://www.4shared.com/do...131117-113424-f5d16833
 
The blank cells have been not assigned yet.
I surprised when I saw that technics KN1000 was not available in drum Map preset box in drom map manager, Therefore, I decided to create my own one to apply to the keyboard,
Please correct me, if I am in wrong way.Or if I have missed any option please advice me.