mondaydave
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Studio Monitor Advice
Hi,
I have inherited a set of Yamaha NS10M studio monitors, The catch is two tweeters and one Bass cone need replacing.
The cost of the replacement parts is around EUR300.00.
My question for you seasoned pro's is, Is it worth paying this much cash to bring the NS10M'S back to life or would the 300.00 be better spent on a new set of studio monitors?
As always your input is much appreciated.
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Re: Studio Monitor Advice
2013/11/18 16:29:20
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I wouldn't be confident that just replacing the cones would get them back to factory standard spec so I would be more likely to buy some new monitors.
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Re: Studio Monitor Advice
2013/11/18 17:55:33
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The Yamaha NS10M monitor is not one that has a great reputation for fidelity. I wouldn't sink more money into them, if they were mine.
Adam makes some very good monitors. I have a pair of Adam A7X's. You'll pay twice as much as the repair job, but I think you'll end up with a much better project.
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Re: Studio Monitor Advice
2013/11/18 18:02:52
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I would put the money toward a new pair as well. There are quite a few in your range that will sound as good or better than the NS10's.
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Re: Studio Monitor Advice
2013/11/18 19:07:17
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Re: Studio Monitor Advice
2013/11/18 20:15:15
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The Yamaha NS10M monitor is not one that has a great reputation for fidelity. I wouldn't sink more money into them, if they were mine. The NS-10M are considered neutral sounding and lacking in any kind of hype and emphasis, so much so that they are still considered a studio reference today. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep08/articles/yamahans10.htm
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Re: Studio Monitor Advice
2013/11/18 20:26:14
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☄ Helpfulby tonydude 2013/11/19 03:08:51
The one thing one really needs to do before making any decisions on speakers, near field monitors or loudspeakers is listen to them first. But you must listen in a good environment and with educated ears.
You can get good advice from people that have been listening for years but you should decide for yourself.
You need to know what you are hearing.
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Re: Studio Monitor Advice
2013/11/18 21:44:41
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John
The one thing one really needs to do before making any decisions on speakers, near field monitors or loudspeakers is listen to them first. But you must listen in a good environment and with educated ears.
You can get good advice from people that have been listening for years but you should decide for yourself.
You need to know what you are hearing.
John
The one thing one really needs to do before making any decisions on speakers, near field monitors or loudspeakers is listen to them first. But you must listen in a good environment and with educated ears.
You can get good advice from people that have been listening for years but you should decide for yourself.
You need to know what you are hearing.
I don't have educated years, only tired ears... I did the research, narrowed my search to Adam A7x vs Yamaha NS10. Money was not a consideration. I selected the NS10, since I know my ears don't respond to higher frequencies because of age and more importantly I played in my 5 piece group for 40 years! The NS10s seemed brighter (I had a song played in a loop so I was comparing apples to apples) and I thought this might help me to not mix down with too much high frequency EQ compensation. At any rate I'm very happy with the NS10s. Walt
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Re: Studio Monitor Advice
2013/11/18 23:11:48
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☄ Helpfulby Mystic38 2013/11/19 05:08:23
SuperG
The NS-10M are considered neutral sounding and lacking in any kind of hype and emphasis, so much so that they are still considered a studio reference today.
 Oh, wait. You're serious. Yes, they are in fact still used as a reference, despite having no low end and tweeters that could cut glass. Strangely, it's precisely because they are extremely colored that makes them an enduring standard. Tradition holds that if you can make a mix sound good on them, it'll sound good anywhere. It's probably true, but I think that says more about the skill of the mixer than any magic in the speakers. If somebody were to give me a pair, I'd go ahead and repair them - but only to increase their value on eBay.
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SuperG
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Re: Studio Monitor Advice
2013/11/19 00:34:33
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Because they are colored...?
I suppose every speaker has characteristics..
Geez bit, what would be the type and characteristic of monitor that you would use, if money were no concern...?
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Re: Studio Monitor Advice
2013/11/19 11:09:54
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If money were no concern...like that would ever happen!...I'd build a dedicated room and bring in an internationally-recognized acoustician to design it. The speakers would almost be an afterthought.
You're right that all speakers have their own color. The goal is to get ones that are as close to neutral as possible. Fortunately, there are many products out there that come reasonably close for a reasonable price.
But regardless of cost the most basic prerequisite is that they need to reproduce all the frequencies that you care about. If you have no bass guitars or bass drums in your music, and no mic rumble, then not hearing anything below 100Hz might not be a problem.
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Re: Studio Monitor Advice
2013/11/19 12:46:20
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Because they are colored...? Carefull now! Lets take race out of this.
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Re: Studio Monitor Advice
2013/11/19 13:13:44
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If you can afford to keep and shelve them for now I'd get other monitors and then restore them later. They are indeed classics and can be very useful as an addition to an existing setup. A decent rule of thumb is if you can get the midrange sounding smooth and defined on an NS10, it'll sound great on other speakers ;)
They're likely too colored to use for your main pair though.
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