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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/21 15:47:49
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That is quite something Dave I loved it. I love the concept of a keyboard triggering another sound. That video looks ahead of its time. Sounds like something we are doing now. It really has the perfect combination of keyboard control over a bowed string sound. The mechanics of that must be fun. BTW AAS String Studio and also Naitve Prism can do these sorts of patches almost now. But that as library would be interesting. The is a strong relationship with the music and that instrument too. They are very suited to each other.
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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/21 16:42:53
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My understanding (and you would really have to fact check me on this) is that many of the da Vinci contraptions were untenable the way they were drawn ... things like gears that would not turn in the desired direction with the way they were drawn on paper. I wonder, of the 5000 hours it took to build, how much of that was design work to go from concept to actual practice and if the instrument or at least components of it are patentable.
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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/21 17:28:16
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quantumeffect My understanding (and you would really have to fact check me on this) is that many of the da Vinci contraptions were untenable the way they were drawn ... things like gears that would not turn in the desired direction with the way they were drawn on paper. I wonder, of the 5000 hours it took to build, how much of that was design work to go from concept to actual practice and if the instrument or at least components of it are patentable.
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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/22 10:13:36
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No doubt da Vinci was an idea guy rather than an engineer. His famous helicopter would clearly never get off the ground, but the concept got later inventors thinking and eventually did lead to a practical design. Quite often, ideas are simply too far ahead of the technology needed to actually implement them, like Babbage's Difference Engine.
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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/22 10:36:22
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Yeah... I met this guy who claimed to have invented an anti-gravity chair. He took it out back and sat on it to give it a test, but hasn't been seen since!
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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/22 12:12:15
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I looked at the up close portion of the video that shows some of the inner workings. Looks as if the strings are divided into four sections with one wheel for each. I am curious how he did it exactly. There is a steady amount of energy generated that you use when you want it. The wheels move the horse hair,the keys "touch" them with the strings to get sound or maybe visa versa, not sure. If you added electric guitar pickups under those strings you would have one killer guitar sound, especially if you could play with the tunings on it. Leonardo might not have approved though.
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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/22 12:29:27
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If you added electric guitar pickups under those strings you would have one killer guitar sound, especially if you could play with the tunings on it. Leonardo might not have approved though.
I don't know, 5000 man hours and 3 years just to build an instrument so you emulate a Jimmy Page solo ...
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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/22 12:35:55
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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/22 12:39:03
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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/22 13:01:44
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Remember when someone first took classical music and recorded it with synths? It was a little before my time. I was at least in diapers then.....give it another thirty years and I'll be back in diapers...anyways , what was I saying. There seems to have always been a "them" and "us" regarding classical and popular music. Sometimes "they" play with us and sometimes we play with "them" but we are still different folk. Some people can really appreciate the type of music played on that instrument, they might even cry when listening to it. When I listen to classical music no matter what it's played on I don't usually get emotional but then, I don't really have a personality either. If he had hired a real carpenter maybe he could have had it built in 100 hours. I'll bet Spacey could have done it in much less time.
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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/22 16:38:31
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Starise There seems to have always been a "them" and "us" regarding classical and popular music.
Actually, there was a time ... maybe around WWII ... that popular music "composers" ripped off the masters without a second thought. Borodin, Chopin, and other 19th century geniuses were the source of the tunes used in a number of popular hits of that era. The most egregious rip-off was a song given the lyrics "I'll be seeing you in all the old familiar places". That came from the final movement of Mahler's third symphony. Listening to the original is a near religious experience (it's about 25 minutes in length and not too long in even the slightest). To have freely "borrowed" that masterpiece was nothing short of criminal.
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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/22 17:18:58
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I used to expose my naive, drug-using roommates to Classical back in the 80's. I had (and still have) these colored lasers that move to the beat of the music and draw incredible art on your ceiling. I also used to have a VERY nice stereo system with four satellites and two subwoofers. Laying on the floor watching the light show while doing mushrooms and listening to Bach's Tocata and Fugue in D minor in that room was a VERY religious experience - lol!
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Re: Musical Instrument designed by da Vinci
2013/11/25 11:54:09
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dmbaer
Starise There seems to have always been a "them" and "us" regarding classical and popular music.
Actually, there was a time ... maybe around WWII ... that popular music "composers" ripped off the masters without a second thought. Borodin, Chopin, and other 19th century geniuses were the source of the tunes used in a number of popular hits of that era. The most egregious rip-off was a song given the lyrics "I'll be seeing you in all the old familiar places". That came from the final movement of Mahler's third symphony. Listening to the original is a near religious experience (it's about 25 minutes in length and not too long in even the slightest). To have freely "borrowed" that masterpiece was nothing short of criminal.
I wasn't aware of that dmbaer. Probably sounded much different after those guys got hold of it. Not familiar with that piece. You have me curious about it though. I'm still attempting to acquiesce to classical music. I haven't given up completely. I think my exposure has been limited.
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