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X3 with 1 and 2..?
In spite of some crashes reported in some threads here I'd like to upgrade to X3. Do you recommend uninstalling the previous versions (X1 and X2) before getting X3? I kept X1d because it was fairly stable and in case of troubles with X2 (indeed, there were!).
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 3:30 PM
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Leave both X1 and X2 installed when installing X3. If you are installing Producer and already have a version of Producer, skip DimPro download. The "loops and one shots" are the same as X2 Producer, skip that download too.
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 3:31 PM
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 3:31 PM
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 3:35 PM
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I left X2 installed. It went fine.
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 3:37 PM
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X2 issues may stem from some issues with certain plugins - mostly 32-bit ones.
I would suggest you consider leaving projects created with X1 or X2 to be finished in X1 or X2, respectably, and begin new projects with X3c.
If you have issues with new projects in X3c, then again look to your plugins, particularly 32-bit ones.
You will also want to get your OS up to current maintenance levels for Windows.
We are here to help with any difficulties during your X3 install.
Additionally, once you install X3a (the base released version), you can skip installation of the X3b patch and just install X3c over X3a.
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 3:56 PM
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 4:42 PM
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Thank you gswitz, Bob (great to skip the b-update!) and scook!
Problem is to leave the old editions on my tiny system-hard drive (128 GB with just 27 GB free space at the moment). I've allready got Dimension Pro with the previous Sonar versions and bought Addictive Drums a couple of years ago. I guess I just keep the old versions of those and hope there's nothing I'd miss...
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 4:48 PM
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Yes, there is no change in DimPro, that is why it is. Addictive drums does not install with SONAR, it comes directly from XLN. Removing the old version of SONAR would free up less than 500MB.
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 4:51 PM
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 4:54 PM
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Scook hey! I also saw that a while ago! I wrote to XLN support about that and gave them credits to thhat great offer but still haven't heard a word... I'll try again for sure.
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 5:02 PM
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I've got around 3 GB in the Vstplugin-folder with DP and Session Drummer taking about half of it.
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 5:07 PM
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That is true but they come with every version so you save nothing by uninstalling and reinstaling. BTW, you can relocate the samples to free up the majority of the space those synths use. Even larger than those are the Beatscape library which came with X1 and repackaged as "Loops and One Shots" in X2.
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 5:35 PM
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Thanks scook! Strangely enough I found 9 GB(!) of DP in the "C:\Program Files (x86)\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro"-folder and the X2 64 Vst-plugin-manger points to that folder! This means I am running DP in 32 bits..! The Beatscape Factory Content I managed to place on an another hard drive but as I recall moving the DP-library to another hard drive resulted in the synth not finding it, as happened with the AD-drum sounds... Both XLN AD and DP seem reluctant to place their libraries on a second hard drive.
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 5:42 PM
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☄ Helpfulby equality November 30, 13 5:50 PM
WRT 32bit DimPro, if you installed the 32bit DimPro before the 64bit version, it will use the 32bit sample library. They are the same. It is pretty easy to tell if you are running a 32bit plug-in in 64bit SONAR, the plug-in name in the browser and menu will be appended with (32-bit) and the plug-in GUI will not have the normal VST header.
The safest way to move sample libraries is NOT through the registry but using the DOS mklink command. Using either the /d or /j switch can create a link allowing relocation of any directory to another drive.
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 6:04 PM
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Great scook! The browser says (32-bit) allright... I surely will check that mklink command out! If the 64-bit versions can use the previously installed 32-bit sound libraries, would that go for Addicitve drums as well? I guess I have to re-install Dim Pro and Addictive Drums to 64 bit versions then since, according to other threads, the 32 bit could have caused many of the crashes I have had with X2.
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 6:08 PM
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☄ Helpfulby equality November 30, 13 6:18 PM
Don't know about Addictive Drums. If you have the 32bit version of DimPro installed and do not use 32bit SONAR, uninstall DimPro and reinstall the 64bit version. DimPro has it's own installer. Any version included with X1 though X3 will do, they are all the same. If you use both 32 and 64bit, just run the DimPro installer again and install the 64bit version.
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 6:21 PM
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☄ Helpfulby equality November 30, 13 8:34 PM
IIRC, if you elect to uninstall and reinstall DimPro, the installer has an option to specify the location of the multisample library.
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Re: X3 with 1 and 2..?
November 30, 13 8:36 PM
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Thanks again! Used mklink and it seems to work fine with Dim Pro and Addictive. Haven't installed the 64-versions yet though. Freed up a lot of space.
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