Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings

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2013/11/29 00:10:17 (permalink)

Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings

I seem to remember this being an issue back in X1 days, but is anyone else experiencing this with X3?
Basically on re-opening a project, often (about 1 in 4 times) all Pro Channel EQ settings will be completely reset.  There is a window of time while the project is open to go in and manually turn each band off/on, which restores it's previous settings, but if you close the project before doing this (or it crashes), you have lost the settings for good.
This essentially renders Pro Channel completely unusable; I can't rely on it at all when I'm working on multiple versions of cues, doing revisions, going back into stuff from weeks prior.
I'm on X3B and scared to move up to X3C because I don't want to introduce even MORE issues, but does anyone know if X3C has addressed this?  Any suggestions for workarounds (ie turn off 64bit, never ever use Pro Channel etc haha)?
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    sicsa1
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/04/07 18:05:04 (permalink)
    Hello,
    yes, i have this problem also. 2days ago i wrote the email for the Cakewalk,and i waiting for the answer...
    Can somebody help for we? 
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    Sanderxpander
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/04/07 18:17:42 (permalink)
    Create a restore point, then try upgrading to X3e. Many issues have been addressed.
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/04/07 22:16:57 (permalink)
    I have seen it before X3 but i have not experienced it yet with X3.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    sicsa1
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/04/08 05:29:16 (permalink)
    Yes, i using the x3e upgrade but the prochannel EQ is not work when i reloading the project
    I tried  to save to the setup always but doesn't work in the reloading project........im so sad :-(
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    Michayl Asaph
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/04/08 12:29:35 (permalink)
    FIX... for me anyway, but try this: i went into all the cakewalk folders and deleted all the prochannel .dll's.... next i opened up sonar x3 and ran the plug in scan to show they were removed, then i did an over install from the original sonar x3 disks and only installed the program files and all the plugin files. next did an over install of the x3e update, then i opened up sonar x3 and did a vst scan to find the reinstalled plugins and it fixed the prochannel eq not saving my settings... plus the settings i made that didnt seemed saved, they were there, hmmmmm. nutty, but it fixed for me. it's almost like a vst that gets screwy and needs to be deleted and reinstalled. hope it works for you.
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    sicsa1
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/04/08 14:53:41 (permalink)
    Sorry , i no understand exactly what can i do? Can you writing step by step your advice?
    Thanx
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/04/08 20:23:48 (permalink)
    sure... this is what i did, hope it works for you.
    step 1- go into all cakewalk folders on your C Drive/Programs, or Programs (x86) for 32 bit version/Cakewalk/Shared Utilities/Internal and delete ALL pro channel .dlls
    Step 2- open sonar x3 and run a vst scan to verify all pro channel fx are gone.
    Step 3- get out your original installer files, disk or download and only install program files and plugin fx.
    step 4- install x3E update.
    step 5- open sonar x3 again and run another vst scan to verify the pro channel plugins are there again.
    Last- open a test project, change pro channel eq drastically, save and reopen to see if it fixed it for you.
    it worked for me... it reminds me of vst effects getting buggy and having to delete them and reinstall them.
    hope this works you. let me know. 
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/04/13 18:17:23 (permalink)
    Thanx ,but your advice is not work :(
    Thank you.
    And the answer from Cakewalk is not arriving....
     
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/04/13 18:19:00 (permalink)
    Somebody can to help for me?
     
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/06/10 19:08:43 (permalink)
    Yesterday I found I am also experiencing the flat line eq issue in X3e. This can makes a huge difference in a mix and leaves one feeling like he's starting over.
     
    I'm trying to complete this project so I don't know if it's happening with others or not yet....
     
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/06/10 19:46:19 (permalink)
    Sixfinger it states in your signature that you are running X3C, so please upgrade to X3E.
     
    Then try a VST Reset. That is a reset followed by a rescan (not just a rescan) after you upgrade to X3E, if you have already, do the reset now.
     
    http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013315/SONAR-X3-Full-VST-Rescan-Recommended-for-Upgraders
     
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/06/10 22:50:30 (permalink)
    Six Finger...
    For a while, when working on projects I care about, I was saving off the PCs so I could restore them if the Eqs went screwy.
     
    Again, I haven't seen it since I got on X3, but I've not been working that hard on mixing either. My mixes have been pretty quick and basic. EQs simple and not spanning too many sessions.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/06/11 00:34:58 (permalink)
    Alex, I'll try that first thing in the morning, I am on X3e, at some point I know I did the VST reset, however, just a week ago I did and image restore and re updated to X3e from d.  I have great hope this is the answer.
     
    Gswitz, when I first noticed I did save the the PC settings as presets on several tracks, oddly enough even loading them would'nt bring the eq settings back....   but I think Alex is right.  I've had years of no real issues other than some of the known bugs we've seen on these pages.
     
    I'll rest easy tonight and reset both my brain and the VST

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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/06/11 06:29:56 (permalink)
    Sixfinger
    Gswitz, when I first noticed I did save the the PC settings as presets on several tracks, oddly enough even loading them would'nt bring the eq settings back....  

    Ok, that's a surprise to me. I've never saved PC Settings correctly and not had them restore correctly, including EQ settings. After you get on X3e see if you can replicate that one. That would be a big concern to me, because I do depend on that working as advertised.
     
    It has never failed for me in my experience to save the PC settings and then reload. I use this feature rather heavily with my workflow. I often mix an entire night's music in one project. As I go through, I'll save the PC settings for each tune I mix. When I go back to a tune to make a tweak, I reload all the PCs and make my adjustments.
     
    I would think I would have bumped into the bug if it were easy to reproduce.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Pro Channel Losing EQ Settings 2014/06/11 08:24:58 (permalink)
    I can happily say first thing I did the reset, and my aformention project loaded with EQ setting intact!
     
    I will of course be watching closely.
     
    Gswitz, additional info, yesterday when I loaded the project and discovered the flat line EQ's, I knew I had started with the preset Bus - Warm Concrete Drums, but had changed and replaced many things, however the EQ was the same. So I loaded that preset on a dummy track to visually compare the settings, Then saved the new drum PC preset.     
     
    It was at that time when I reloaded the preset testing it , the EQ flat lined again.  Later after restarting Sonar and the project, the preset did work.....   I Really believe all is well on the PC presets, it was a moment in time.

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