does anyone else find the "SMART GRID" a little bit dumb

In theory it's a great idea. ..but sadly another half baked idea. If your editing drums and want to edit to a 16th note grid you can't zoom in too where it's actually useful because you will be editing on a 128th noted grid@ #&$@.
If we could just have Cake put an upper and lower limit on what we see on the grid, we could hypothetically zoom in as far as we want and only ever se 8ths or 16ths on the grid.
Does this make sense??? Ive made this a feature requeat a few times now to no avail.
Anyone else care to fight this one with me?

I hated it at first and always turned it off but I'm starting to use it more. Just gotta be aware of it and how far you are zoomed in. For specific stuff like you are mentioning where I need it constrained though I'd turn it off. Being able to adjust how far it goes would be nice.

Great. Now I have to go to the free clinic.

neirbod
I haven't used smart grid very much, but I agree it would be great to be able to tailor the snap resolution of the smart grid depending on one's needs.   As a workaround, have you tried setting a secondary snap resolution to something more useful for you, such as 16th notes?  That way you could toggle between the smart grid and your specified resolution.  Haven't tried this myself so I don't know it works in practice, but seems useful in theory. http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X2&Lang=EN&Req=Arranging.28.html#1470987

I think it needs to be remembered that this is art as well as craft...

For the most part I've had to turn off smart grid and any tools like it (auto zoom is one for me)...

Trying to guess my circumstantial needs is beyond my own ability even if we could set such...

That being said, I use mostly the same snap settings... One setting for TV and another for PRV... It is awkward to work on some pieces/situations where I must change back and forth to different settings such as in PRV needs for some phrases that require triplets or the likes, but that is infrequent for me...

So it's simple for me to simply disable it and ignore it with a sigh thinking all that features development time could have gone into redesigning Lanes and Zoom! <sigh>...

Keni

I look at the smart tool the way i look at automated features with video or photography.  They are ok when they work, but any photographer or videographer knows that relying on a machine to think for you is a bad idea.  The smart tool is supposed to be a shortcut that anticipates your needs as far as tools, saving you the extra second to click on the right tool or the extra mili-second it takes to hit a keyboard shortcut.  I don't get any more upset when the smart tool does not quite nail it any more than I get mad when the autofocus on my camera gets confused by a fence or cage bars at a zoo.  I just switch to the tool I wanted.
 

but... the normal snap works as it should as does the Smart Grid. We didn't pay for what you are asking for. We paid for what they put out. It's an extra that is available for you to use or not. Being able to have more control over it would be a nice touch but as it is it doesn't hinder anything.
 
I'm sorry... this isn't the travesty you are making it out to be. Just put in a feature request.

Yes Brundlefly, I like most, always have the smart grid disabled. And yes the normal snap works as expected perfectly.
Snap is not the problem. Editing to a grid that has next to zero options is the problem.
To give it some perspective, a close friend of mine was a rep for Roland and put me in contact with a few people at Calkwalk who use Protools to edit to the grid.
One said the grid kinda sucks, the other two were a little more diplomatic in their respones but agreed that it has never been that good. All of them shall remain nameless.
I don't care how they implement a grid ie.using smart grid or doing something like Protools.
Again, the only option with the smart grid disabled, is quarter note grid. If you want to line up a bunch of tracks to a 16th note,you have to change your snap value to 16th note and use your now time aim assist to see where everything should be lined up to.

The best case scenario would probably be to just give us an option to have the grid at whatever value we need, and have it always shown (just as the quarter note one is now)
That way we could have snap disabled and and still be able to see the grid.

It would be wonderful if the track view grid worked more like the PRV grid. In your response, do you see the hoops we have to jump through for something as simple as a user definable grid resolution like the PRV.
We should all just put in a feature request for a better TV grid

Im not thinking of jumping ship for 1 feature that protools does does well. In general I am quite happy with Calkwalk.
I'm also not talking about protools midi...just the ability to have the grid show what I want it to show(like the PRV). Instead of just quarter maybe a drop down menu with some options.

oops.  i misread.  sorry

I'm finding in Sonar X2 Producer that suddenly it's not working at all, not a stitch.  I do a lot of midi input on the fly in staff mode and expect when I drop a quarter note at a quarter position with a quarter snap that it'll land there, it won't, period, end of sentence.  Even clips aren't snapping where they're supposed to.  I've tried changing the magnet to extreme, double checked to see it's there, etc.  I just had to edit a project and manually calculate all the midi start points.  Fun.