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Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
I have a Digitech RP255 that would be nice to use with Sonitus and other effects. Thanks, Steve
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/08 10:59:31
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I have a Digitech RP255 that would be nice to use with Sonitus and other effects. I'm not sure about the MIDI output capabilities of that pedal over USB. A brief look at the manual wasn't encouraging. Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI pedal? Sure. I still use the old-school method of Display -> FX -> Show Assignable Controls, with Remote Control / Learn on a targeted parameter.
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/08 11:09:33
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You may have to use the MIDI Lear tool to get control over the effects with the RP unit. CJ
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/08 12:11:57
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Does it even output MIDI? The word "MIDI" doesn't appear in the manual.
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/08 16:20:17
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This is why I ask. When Windows "found new (USB) hardware" it loaded the latest "MIDI" drivers for it, so I must wonder if it can be a controller. I am awaiting an answer from Digitech's support team. If NO, then I may have to invest in one that can - primarily for WAH and Volume. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/08 16:41:28
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Yes. Soens, I'm uploading a video on how to use ACT with a midi controller to control pretty much any VST from TH2 (my example) to Sonitus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja1RvsICh0Y
post edited by gswitz - 2013/12/08 18:06:06
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/08 17:20:00
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Does not look like it. In the manual it says the USB port is designed to be used with editing software on a computer and the pedal can be used as sort of audio interface. Why don't you really learn to use the Digitech processor to its full advantage. They are pretty good processors and can do all the WAH effects and many other things and probably better than the Sonitus effects anyway. Use the pedal for what it is intended. What you want to do could probably be achieved by connecteing an expression pedal to something like an M Audio keyboard controller and then using ACT to assign the midi/USB signals to control whatever you assign it to. If you don't want to get a keyboard controller with a pedal input there are things like this that allow you to connect a pedal directly to the midi data stream in your system: http://www.midisolutions.com/prodped.htm
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/09 16:47:38
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Bad news everyone! Digitech says "The R255 cannot be used as a midi controller for a DAW." So what's the MIDI drivers for then?! ******************************
post edited by soens - 2013/12/10 06:03:48
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/09 18:39:16
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Hook it up as a MIDI device, hit Record and see what gets recorded. My guess would be nothing. Maybe it accepts some limited MIDI input. If you just want something for knobs, perhaps one of the little controllers from Korg or Akai will suit you. They're cheap and compact.
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/09 19:27:24
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StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/10 05:35:05
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Thanks gswitz, not sure what that's about but probably nothing I'm interested in. I've asked Digitech to explain the MIDI drivers and why the RP255 shows up in Sonar's MIDI input and Output lists. Will let you know what they say.
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/10 06:31:39
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It shows up in the midi ins and outs because there is apparently an editor program that can take control of it from a computer. It would work in one direction from computer to unit in terms of editor taking control the processor. The other direction from the processor to computer may only be for dumping programs and storing them etc. Not for sending the pedal movement though as a midi controller which is a bit of a shame and is probably not that hard to do. I would investigate the editor though because they usually make very light work of editing the programs compared to adjusting all those parameters on the unit itself through menus and a very small display. Here is the link to the edit software. It is called XEdit: http://www.digitech.com/en-US/software You can also stream audio between the unit and the computer. ie use it as an audio interface. Might be a good way to record through it ie plug guitar directly into it and stream its output digitally in stereo direct to your DAW I would say. It says it is 44.1Khz and can be set for either 16bit or 24bit. Nice! It also can stream the output from your DAW back to it and make the DAW available as analog signals on its main outs (and phones no doubt) Or stream the DAW out to it while your guitar is plugged in ie using your DAW as a backing track. I bet the total mixed signal (ie guitar and DAW) will either come out the main stereo outs or the headphiones. It should also be in the audio drivers as well as midi. Otherwise you could just use it normally using the analog signals only. Digitech usually make great processors and I am sure it sounds pretty good. But all this does not help your original request which was to control things in your DAW from a pedal which it cannot do. But my original suggestion would work connecting an expression pedal to the unit I mentioned previously. http://www.midisolutions.com/prodped.htm This just allows you to connect a pedal into your midi data stream without investing in a keyboard controller which you may not want to do, understandably.
post edited by Jeff Evans - 2013/12/10 06:55:27
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/10 18:07:56
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Thanks everyone! I was afraid of this. I already use XEdit which is pretty cool but was hoping for more. Oh well! As for the Midisolutions solution, it's as expensive as the RP255 itself($120-$150). Probably cost >$25 to make. Hardly a reasonable option for me...
post edited by soens - 2013/12/10 18:18:54
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/10 18:56:21
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As for the Midisolutions solution, it's as expensive as the RP255 itself($120-$150). Probably cost >$25 to make. It really is a great solution, but you'll also have to factor in the cost of an expression or volume pedal. If you don't have one available, then you're up around the cost of a FCB-1010 (which is the only Behringer product that I've ever used extensively & recommended). One more consideration for anyone thinking about this route: The MIDI Solutions boxes derive their power from the MIDI In jack connection. While that is a distinct advantage, you have to run the boxes inline within a MIDI stream. Straight pedal-to-MIDI Out won't work without an auxiliary source of power.
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/10 21:25:10
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I bought an m audio oxygen 49 for 100 us last year on sale it has 10 faders / 10 panning knobs / the play,rec,stop ,rr,ff buttons / punch buttons / loop buttons. I hate m audio for there lazy driver updating skills but im using it on windows 8, that's about as fresh as windixie produce Ill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqB6QSrtx8U this is how it set up with ACT I believe /this is the axion though, same set up, diff controller. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFaSICoEJ80
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Re: Can Sonitus FX be controlled by a MIDI Pedal?
2013/12/11 06:11:42
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Awesome video, Charlie. It's interesting that they didn't include a headphones jack. I suppose it is ONLY a midi controller. It doesn't have any internal synths so it cannot be played without a PC. Interesting.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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