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John Lennon
Some people remember dates like the Kennedy assassination but I always remember this date and think of John Lennon. What a waste and tragedy. He gave us all such enjoyment and without his time on earth this world would not be the same. RIP John Lennon
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/08 18:09:32
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That's burned deep into my memory. Likewise, Dimebag Darrell of Pantera, also fell under the bullets of a deranged fan, 9 years ago today. Fans, man. Often weird, sometimes lethally so...
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/08 18:16:24
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He was coming home from listening to mixes on Double Fantasy that fatal night. That album is great BTW. A great book to read is 'Lennon' by Tim Riley. Some say it is the most in depth and accurate account of his life. I loved the book. Great to listen to all the music as mentioned in the book too in the order that it is mentioned. It is quite a journey. Some of his best music came after the Beatles too.
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/08 18:28:19
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The arrangements on Double Fantasy can get in the way at times. Not that they're poor, but they don't always serve Lennon's music in the best possible way. I've always known DF was great, I appreciated it, and enjoyed a few songs. But THIS version serves it much better. Plus, it's easier to get rid of the Yoko stuff. ;)
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/08 19:04:37
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My fantasy would be that the bullets hit Yoko instead of John...
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/08 19:08:53
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Yeah- lots of people wish he was a Paul McCartney fan I bet. I believe Lennon's best album was Plastic Ono Band- love it from start to end.
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/08 21:18:55
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No disrespect intended, but a friend of mine who is a Beatles junkie has given me many books on the boys and behind the scenes mascinations ,, and there was lots of trouble in paradise esp between Paul and John ..
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/08 21:39:44
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It is a sad anniversary. I was in New Jersey at the time and listening to WNEW-FM when it happened. They played Lennon's and Beatles' songs and interviews while they tried to keep us updated about the shooting. A sad day indeed.
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/08 21:47:17
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I was in 5th grade, but I remember it well. I finally got to go to the Dakota in 2012, Then the wife and I went for a walk through Strawberry fields entering Central park.
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/08 21:53:30
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I've read Riley's book as well Jeff. I think it tells a very truthful account of Lennon's life. Riley shed a lot of insight on Johns entire life. His life was pretty messed up from start to finish.
No offense Backwoods, but I would have been just as devastated if it had happened to McCartney instead of Lennon. They are both musical genius. Both were stronger together than apart. They fed off of each other's inspiration even after they stopped working together. They were always like brothers to the end.
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/08 22:02:33
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Totally agree makeshift. I go through phases where one day I think Macca was number 1 and then at other times I listen to "walrus" or "in my life" and I swing over to John. I think that Macca needed John more than the other way around though. Could be wrong about that :) Really, quite a tempestous band. I remem,ber watching the anthology series where they meet up in the modern day and it's obvious George still hated Macca's guts. It seemed he could barely contain his resentment all those years later.
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/10 00:57:39
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I also remember this date, he is my favorite singer, his song imagine is so beautiful. His song imagine is the best song in this whole world, this is my view and I think that I am right in my judgement in this regard. Now a little break for and come back soon.
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/10 01:12:43
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I remember it clearly. I was 7 years old and my parents had recently separated. They were not speaking at all -they hated each other. And one day I was on the floor of the living room playing with my big yellow Tonka truck when the phone rang. I answered it and it was my dad sounding teary. He asked to speak to my mother. "Uh-oh," I thought. So she took the phone, and I remember her saying things like "What? No, that can't be true, I can't believe it, I heard him interviewed on the radio just the other day" and then she was all teary too. Anyway that stuck in my mind a lot, the fact that my parents hated each other and weren't talking but that he called her up to tell her that John Lennon had died. Fun fact: My mother's sister was George Harrison's housekeeper and nanny for Dhani Harrison in the late 70's/early 80's. She knew him pretty well. So I think this contributed to my mother feeling somewhat closer to the Beatles than if she were just a regular fan. He lived in a huge castle near Henley-On-Thames and when we were staying with my aunt we got taken there a couple of times and met him. I was way too young to appreciate it though. I remember what impressed me most was that my aunt had to insert some sort of credit card into the front gate to get it to open, then there was a drive through a winding forest road and a deer once ran in front of the car. We still have one of George's old dressing gowns, it's navy blue with George embroidered on the back in white. My mother wouldn't let me take it to school with me because she thought it smelled of pot. Anyway that's George. RIP to them both.
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/10 08:08:12
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I thought he lived at Cracker Box Palace.
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/10 10:23:16
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sharke I remember it clearly. I was 7 years old and my parents had recently separated. They were not speaking at all -they hated each other. And one day I was on the floor of the living room playing with my big yellow Tonka truck when the phone rang. I answered it and it was my dad sounding teary. He asked to speak to my mother. "Uh-oh," I thought. So she took the phone, and I remember her saying things like "What? No, that can't be true, I can't believe it, I heard him interviewed on the radio just the other day" and then she was all teary too. Anyway that stuck in my mind a lot, the fact that my parents hated each other and weren't talking but that he called her up to tell her that John Lennon had died. Fun fact: My mother's sister was George Harrison's housekeeper and nanny for Dhani Harrison in the late 70's/early 80's. She knew him pretty well. So I think this contributed to my mother feeling somewhat closer to the Beatles than if she were just a regular fan. He lived in a huge castle near Henley-On-Thames and when we were staying with my aunt we got taken there a couple of times and met him. I was way too young to appreciate it though. I remember what impressed me most was that my aunt had to insert some sort of credit card into the front gate to get it to open, then there was a drive through a winding forest road and a deer once ran in front of the car. We still have one of George's old dressing gowns, it's navy blue with George embroidered on the back in white. My mother wouldn't let me take it to school with me because she thought it smelled of pot. Anyway that's George. RIP to them both.
Great story sharke! George is my favorite. I remember as a kid (around 1981 or 82) I bought my first album. It was "Somewhere in England". I later sent a letter to Friar Park. You actually getting to go there and meet him...That's freaking awesome!
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/10 10:37:49
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I remember that night clearly also. I was with a girlfriend at her folks for dinner and Monday Night Football. When they announced the news on MNF, I told her I needed to go home. At the time, I lived in Scottsdale, Arizona. I shared a house with 3 other band members. We didn't have a TV, so they didn't know what happened. I still remember the shocked faces of disbelief when I told them the news. Randy
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/10 11:17:59
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my mum doesn't like mccartney (still) because he refused to kiss my auntie in the pub circa 1962/3 and then i ended up having lennon's half sister julia as my french teacher in middle school, we called her "bird the hippy", she was the spit, but i only found out years later
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Re: John Lennon
2013/12/14 14:29:43
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☄ Helpfulby lawp 2013/12/14 18:25:38
Hi, I'm not sure how folks will take my feelings on this, but I have refrained from mentioning anything, as the love/hate side of it all is sad and disgusting, in general, and someone like John kinda didn't give a s$it if someone did not like it, and this is something that he learned from Yoko, but is also a part of the things that everyone loves to trash her for. AND, it's not fair. It's like you are the parent that never liked the person your child married, but their relationship lasted forever, like it or not! Which means you are wrong, not them, I imagine! I was into the Beatles from the start, and was listening to many things they were saying. I can not tell you how much they meant, but I took Sgt Peppers and Magical Mystery Tour seriously, because where we were at in Brazil, it was not secret that the indigenous folks also did what we call "drugs" but are a regular part of their life. I knew right away, when the Beatles stated in hundreds of interviews that it was about "learning" and you don't spend time with the Maharishi Yogi (sorry spelling) and not learn something "inward", that today, with the media craze. most folks tend to distort grossly and trash senselessly! When I compared some of those comments to a lot of things I had read in literature, they made sense ... but the media wanted to tell you that long haired kids and hippies could not be right! (so to speak!) I still have an interview with John, a year before he died I think where he is upset and disappointed that people were trashing his relationship with Yoko. And that people had no respect for a person's choice, and the worst part ... she was an artist, and that means she was not one of those women that disappeared after a child is born! But no one takes a look at what she did, and how she got the attention, which everyone thinks that her vocals in a few pieces of music are so horrendously bad that she's an atrocious being because of it. It never dawns that she might have done that on purpose and that John wanted it that way so people would not worry about him, which was not intentional, but a way to minimize the importance of the music or his work itself! But there were a lot of things that were very important to me ... and Revolution #9 would not have happened without John and Yoko. It was exactly what her white painting with a dot was all about ... you turn on the microphone, walk down the street, and that's that ... a day in the life ... and the simplicity of it all got lost ... her big work of art was a huge canvas painted in white, with just one little black dot in the middle of it, and there are a couple of ways to interpret this ... there is a point, and no one gets it or the point is so small that it is irrelevant. I think that John knew the difference! The interview I had was nice and honest and it was done when he spent a couple of days in bed in that famous bed-in thing, and there are some words in there that are sad, and one of them was him saying that he could not walk the park or the street in peace or quiet and that was something he missed. The Let It Be film shows John really well, and at the end, it also shows that the people around him are rude and nasty and don't even say hello to him or her! That's totally uncalled for, but it shows that there were some things already happening. The bootlegs, showed out takes that were fun, and John was no different than any of them, breaking into songs and other bits and pieces that were funny. He was always the one to break things up with a bad joke or lyric! And then there are the Christmas Shows, and the last one done (there were 7 of them), it was all John and Yoko. You can say what you want but he is the only one sitting there and thanking the fans and trying to have some fun with it! I think in the end, that says a lot more about JOHN than we give him credit for! We are a bunch of cynical folks, and we dislike people that are outspoken for whatever reason. We don't trust them, because we have no ability to trust ourselves, and think anyone else has anything of value to offer. We all have it, and that's that, but we can't say it, because that means we don't fit into the classless socialistic society that we have become manipulated by and have to be subserviant to. Folks like John were some of the examples for me that you could break out of it somewhat ... and I believe him!
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