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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 14:11:27 (permalink)
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Alex you need to freeze the synth not the track. 



Yes check #21 where I did both :)
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 14:40:49 (permalink)
Wish I'd had seen this earlier. Could have saved a 100 or so posts. Unless I missed something...
 
The track in question appears to be just a synth audio output track. Where's the MIDI track that's driving it? If Maschine is being played from its front panel, and no MIDI output is being recorded all you can get is a waveform preview. You need to record MIDI on a track pointing to Maschine, and then you'll have something to freeze (i.e. render to audio).

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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 14:59:11 (permalink)
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Did you try Bounce to Tracks|Live Input? Drag select on the timeline, select your track(s), choose Bounce to Tracks from the Tracks Menu, uncheck Fast Bounce, check Live Input (and maybe Audible Bounce too). Probably won't work but worth a try.




Holy cr*p I can highlight the waveform on track 13 and it will bounce to another track creating a clip! Thankyou!
So this is a step forward but with multiple tracks (16 of them) not practical, I just want to press arm/record on all 16 tracks and will be laid down.
  
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 15:14:30 (permalink)
> Where's the MIDI track that's driving it?
Maschine synth is driving it (track 13) it's syncing up with Sonar.


> If Maschine is being played from its front panel, and no MIDI output is being recorded all you can get is a waveform preview
There is no issue at all say with Maschine controller mode say triggering Addictive drums softsynth, but I'm not in controller mode, I'm using a sequenced demo pattern from the maschine softsynth (track 17). Maschine softsynth is playing along to Sonar. In fact I don't even need to have the Maschine switched on.
 
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 16:01:49 (permalink)
Make sure the track is selected (Just as in your picture), go to the clips pane menu, click on "tracks", then "bounce to Track(s)".  You'll get a pop-up menu. Under "source category", select "tracks". De-select all tracks but the one(s). that you want bounced to audio. At least one selection is needed. The rest should be easy from there.
 
If you freeze, you can add fx and all, but I don't believe that fx stick once you mixdown the entire song. 
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 16:08:34 (permalink)
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Nope you can't do any of this with "waveform preview". You can't even drag.

That's not what I said, I said you can drag loops FROM MASCHINE straight onto an audio track (or midi track, depending on how you've configured Maschine). It may not work for what you want to do but that's what I do and it works pretty well for me.
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 16:17:08 (permalink)
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Nope you can't do any of this with "waveform preview". You can't even drag.

That's not what I said, I said you can drag loops FROM MASCHINE straight onto an audio track (or midi track, depending on how you've configured Maschine). It may not work for what you want to do but that's what I do and it works pretty well for me.



Oh you are jumping in with something entirely different, yes I know how to do this thankyou  (and no doubt I will be using it) but please see what I'm specifically trying to do here in this thread.

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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 16:19:06 (permalink)
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Make sure the track is selected (Just as in your picture), go to the clips pane menu, click on "tracks", then "bounce to Track(s)".  You'll get a pop-up menu. Under "source category", select "tracks". De-select all tracks but the one(s). that you want bounced to audio. At least one selection is needed. The rest should be easy from there.
 
If you freeze, you can add fx and all, but I don't believe that fx stick once you mixdown the entire song. 





Yup thanks but see #33 :)

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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 16:23:09 (permalink)
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This is no different than trying to record the output of any other plug-in in real-time. SONAR cannot record plug-in effect or synth output without a plug-in recorder in the FX bin to save the output to a wave file outside of SONAR or use a loopback through the audio interface.



The end of the day this appears to be a major Sonar limitation (although you can bounce the output????). I guess I'm going to have to work around this with a plugin. Any suggestions?
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 16:39:09 (permalink)
Correct.  Pardon any incorrect info.  I'm not in front of my machine, I'm speaking from memory. One thing I forgot to mention is that you may have to have some kind waveform preview first before a mixdown can be done.  If I'm not mistaken, it may not work unless you have at least some preview.  Works for me on every synth I insert. I don't think you can record to a synth track.  What's happening is, you're triggering the instrument(s) on its corresponding track through midi messages (midi track created with the inserted synth).  During playback the midi track triggers the synth on the different tracks and generates the waveform preview.  Normally, the midi track driving the outputs is the last track if the midi option is selected in the synth dialog box.
 
I was not a soft-synth fan, until last year when I had to learn Logic. I was forced to learn this "bounce to track" thing.  Prior production was all done with hardware synth rack modules.
 
I've use this this method heavily w/ Addictive Drums for about 1 year now.
 
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 17:03:17 (permalink)
Waveform preview on synth tracks and buses is essentially a fancy historical representation of a meter. It was an idea I cooked up way back in 2003 as an extension of confidence recording. It captures the historical metering data and plots it horizontally on the track so it looks like a waveform, when in reality its the peak output from the meter :)
As such its just a UI representation of the past meter output and cannot be copied.

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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 17:44:23 (permalink)
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 I guess I'm going to have to work around this with a plugin. Any suggestions?


http://hgsounds.com/product/hgs-wav-recorder-vst-plugin/ is one
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 17:49:42 (permalink)
Yes, you're right Alex, I was suggesting an alternate method that might work for you. I realize it's something different from what you're trying to do, because what you're trying to do is (as far as I know) not possible in Sonar. If you have a soundcard with its own software mixer/patcher you may be able to get around it. For instance my E-MU patchmix lets me route any input to any output, software or hardware. I suppose a third party program like Jack might allow it, but it's never been super stable for me. Perhaps ReWire is an option? Just not sure if Maschine can also act as a client.
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 18:04:15 (permalink)
> As such its just a UI representation of the past meter output and cannot be copied.

Thanks Noal....
#33 - How come I'm able to bounce this meter to another track and play it back as a clip? :) I must be smoking

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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 18:14:47 (permalink)
Alex, when you bounce it to another track your are materializing the data... writing it to disk. Then you can treat it as a clip. When you just play it back and check out the preview you aren't writing the data to disk.
 
Wave form preview is useful for watching a master bus for clips (a line of a customizable color gets drawn vertically to show clip points). You can also use it to double back on a playback to find loud or soft sections which may need special attention without going to the trouble of a bounce.
 
When you can quickly find the louder sections in a tune you are working on, you can use the max level to get an idea of at what point your limiter will limit when you apply it.

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I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 18:54:28 (permalink)
Familiar with the concept of metering (esp with the good 'old days of tape), however more smoking...
 
> Alex, when you bounce it to another track your are materializing the data... writing it to disk

But it's a meter? It's not data apparently, it is just a graph of audio for reference, not data :).
BUT THEN... Oh but I can bounce it - so it is data (well hidden away somewhere in the depths of the machine!) So materialize basically means we can magic this from thin air ! :)

OK Just like that! (Not like this - like that!) - Sorry only UK people will get this line...
 
At the end of day what I'm seeing is, it is totally possible that we can get these outputs into a clip within a Sonar audio track in realtime (after all the sound data doesn't come from thin air otherwise we could not bounce), but right now the Sonar functionality doesn't go that far? Correct?
 
As Scook says...
 
SONAR cannot record plug-in effect or synth output without a plug-in recorder in the FX bin to save the output to a wave file outside of SONAR or use a loopback through the audio interface.
 
So time to file a feature request?
 
Would that be right? Noel?
 
Thanks
 
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 20:33:18 (permalink)
Sounds reasonable. Ableton does this just fine and I've used it effectively in the past.
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 20:37:13 (permalink)
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Thanks Noal....

 
 
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Would that be right? Noal?

 
Who or what is a Noal?
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 20:37:37 (permalink)
Oh I get it. Your "e" key is broken.
 
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 20:42:30 (permalink)
Sorry Noel my bad (I forget it's XMAS). Corrected...
 

 
 
 
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 20:44:01 (permalink)
> Sounds reasonable. Ableton does this just fine and I've used it effectively in the past.
 
Right, so this really is the killer line for my feature request. Thankyou.
I would also be interested to know of other DAWs that do this just fine as well.

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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 20:44:21 (permalink)
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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 20:46:17 (permalink)
Corrected - Lord... have I made any more cockups?

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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 20:53:29 (permalink)
Anyway apologies for getting the names of TWO people wrong I shall now hide my head in shame.

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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 20:56:35 (permalink)
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Akex you need to freeze the synth not the track. 




I blame it on Jon ;)

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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 21:15:44 (permalink)
Anyway as this doesn't seem to be going any further I've logged it as a feature request, I guess I could start another thread when it comes to workarounds if necessary.
 
Thankyou very much everybody for your help, especially the people who I spelllt the name of wrong.
Now filing in a feature request....

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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 21:33:26 (permalink)
FEATURE REQUEST FILED:
 
SONAR cannot record plug-in effect or synth output


At present Sonar X3 cannot record plug-in effects or synth output, and this is a BIG deal for people who own synths or controllers with multiple outs. The most that can happen is a bounce which is far too time consuming in a lot of scenarios...
 
For use case and better understanding of the requirement please check:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Waveform-Preview-m2949348.aspx

Please can we have more flexibility with outputs in Sonar ! :)



Quotes that may persuade you:


Scook: "SONAR cannot record plug-in effect or synth output without a plug-in recorder in the FX bin to save the output to a wave file outside of SONAR or use a loopback through the audio interface." "The subject comes up every now and then, Cakewalk has never provided the capability. "
 
Sanderxpander: "Ableton does this just fine and I've used it effectively in the past."


CakeAlexS "I have given up on religion now I realise I cannot do this. I have come to the conclusion that there is no God and I will be spending more time with the womens 5 a side hockey team than with my Native Instruments devices".
 
Scook: "Don't call me Sharke"

If that doesn't persuade you nothing will...
I make light of this but it is a serious request.


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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 21:37:00 (permalink)
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Waveform preview on synth tracks and buses is essentially a fancy historical representation of a meter. It was an idea I cooked up way back in 2003 as an extension of confidence recording. It captures the historical metering data and plots it horizontally on the track so it looks like a waveform, when in reality its the peak output from the meter :)
As such its just a UI representation of the past meter output and cannot be copied.




From the X2 manual :
 
"A synth [audio,midi,buss] track can display a waveform preview of its output. When you enable this display function by clicking the XXX button on the track strip, the amplitude of a synth track's audio signal is graphed in real time as a waveform."
 
I don't see the [waveform] button anywhere, neither in X2 nor in the pictures in the manual. 
Has it been removed ?
 
Turning waveform preview on and off in Preferences doesn't change this.
 

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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 21:40:54 (permalink)
There is in X3 at least, please check my original post #1, it's the red button that looks like it has a waveform on it (on the track with the waveform)

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Re: Waveform Preview 2013/12/14 21:43:26 (permalink)
It is a feature in X2. The preview button. located just to the right of the solo button, is only on Audio tracks which receive input from a plug-in and Busses.
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