konradh
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Audio Stops Repeatedly
I am trying to play a project. There is noting unusual about it. Most of the soft synths are frozen. It is not a dense project. CPU usage is low (way under 10%). Memory shows about 5.5GB used out of 12GB (which is pretty standard when using soft synths). I am running X1d in 64 bit. No other applications are running. ASIO buffer is set on 1024 samples. The project will play a moment, and the stop and the audio engine shows that the audio has stopped. I hit play and the music goes for a few bars and stops again. Ideas?
post edited by konradh - 2013/12/15 17:07:42
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jb101
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Re: Aduio Stops Repeatedly
2013/12/15 16:58:04
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Hallo, Konrad. What are your I/O buffers set to? Just a thought..
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konradh
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Re: Aduio Stops Repeatedly
2013/12/15 17:09:46
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Hey, man. Not sure what this means, but in Preferences | Driver Settings, I see Input = 522 samples, Output = 752 samples, and Roundtrip=1274 samples. Is that good or bad?
By the way, this problem eventually goes away, but it is quite upsetting when I am trying to work. Also, things shouldn't just break randomly. :-)
Thanks for helping.
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Re: Audio Stops Repeatedly
2013/12/15 17:27:09
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Hm, you've obviously been using this setup for awhile, so the first question is, has anything changed recently (in the setup)? New or updated software? Hardware?
I'd first try to determine if the problem is with your system or isolated to this project... Close and restart Sonar, then open another project (or two). If no problems there, then the issue is with the first project and you can troubleshoot from there.
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Re: Audio Stops Repeatedly
2013/12/15 17:46:13
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You might try adjusting the Playback I/O Buffer size and the Record I/O Buffer size, perhaps set them to 512 k each.
Those settings are in Preferences>Audio>Sync and Caching
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Re: Audio Stops Repeatedly
2013/12/16 05:23:38
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What sample rate are you using konradh?
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Re: Audio Stops Repeatedly
2013/12/16 07:26:05
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I get the same problem while recording. It started after installing X3c. The problem goes away after a couple of stops. I'll try increasing the buffer sizes.
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Re: Audio Stops Repeatedly
2013/12/16 07:58:06
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jb101
Hallo, Konrad. What are your I/O buffers set to? Just a thought..
konradh
Hey, man. Not sure what this means, but in Preferences | Driver Settings, I see Input = 522 samples, Output = 752 samples, and Roundtrip=1274 samples. Is that good or bad?
By the way, this problem eventually goes away, but it is quite upsetting when I am trying to work. Also, things shouldn't just break randomly. :-)
Thanks for helping.
Sorry, Konrad, I should have been more specific, it was late last night and I was half asleep. I meant your Playback I/O Buffer Size and Record I/O Buffer Size. You'll find them in Edit>Preferences>Audio>Sync and Caching (you may need to click the "Advanced Button" at bottom of Prefs window to see it). Craig Anderton posted a thread on here recently, saying that the default used to be 512, but has changed to 256. It may be worth increasing yours to see if it helps. HTH, sorry to be a bit vague last night.
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Re: Audio Stops Repeatedly
2013/12/16 08:13:39
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If you are seeing this randomly occur, then just as randomly the problem goes away, I would check for any update services or AV scanner that might be hitting your hard drives. I've seen it with Java, Quicktime and Windows Updates, until I disabled them all...
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Re: Audio Stops Repeatedly
2013/12/16 09:48:35
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I've been having to pause Gobbler or it pegs my drive causing drop outs.
I believe this is because I have two or three hour live recordings I mix in a single project.
Using the gentle setting in Gobbler, but I still have to pause it when I'm in sonar. I don't know if I need to remove pause when I close, but I do.
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Re: Audio Stops Repeatedly
2013/12/16 09:59:32
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the gobbler guy was on the forums quite recently, maybe he can shed some light?
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konradh
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Re: Audio Stops Repeatedly
2013/12/16 22:13:29
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Thanks, guys. I checked and they were both set to 256. I reset to 512 and will see if that helps. I appreciate the responses!
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Re: Audio Stops Repeatedly
2013/12/17 03:16:46
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Hope it works for you, Konrad.
FBB pointed out the other day that he found these settings to be a balancing act, between the audio buffers and the I/O buffers.
Each system varies, and. You need to find your system's sweet spot. So it's a case of increasing one and lowering the other, and vice versa, until you find the right balance.
I just read that back and it's not very clear, but I have to shoot out now to watch my son's Nativity Play.
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Re: Audio Stops Repeatedly
2014/01/10 08:49:03
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lawp
the gobbler guy was on the forums quite recently, maybe he can shed some light?
Reopening this thread. I have found that Gobbler, even at its lowest setting, can result in dropouts and overall poor performance on heavier projects. I'd love an option to have it only do its thing at odd hours (e.g., 3 AM), or to have a "pause" option when I right click on the icon in the task bar. For now I have to turn it off and then remember to turn it back on.
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