Who's using Sonar X3 exclusively - no outside plugs

I'm almost exclusive, I only have the TSAR-1R reverb plug-in that I use sparingly, but since X3's BREVERB 2 came out I don't need the TSAR-1R anymore. Other than that I don't have any more plugins out side of Cakewalk's Pro Channel plugins....just don't need them. And I'm getting great sounding test mixes.

I couldn't do without Valhalla Room - I just honestly prefer the sound of it over Breverb. However since X3 I've found myself using the Quadcurve EQ a lot more and 3rd party EQ's less. However I'll mainly use it for filtering and cuts, while still using my beloved Waves V-EQ for boosts. 
 
I'm also using the PC4K S-type compressor on tracks a lot more. Like if I'm putting a guitar through an amp sim, I'll give it a little gentle compression with that module before it hits the sim. But after the amp, I'm still using Renaissance Axx a lot, just because I seem to be able to get what I'm looking for very quickly. 
 
So I guess I'll never use stock plugs exclusively, but I am using stock plugs a lot more than I used to. And if all I had were the stock plugs, I don't think it would bother me much. Some of them are superb. 

I forgot, I also have Guitar Rig 5, I like it, but I rarely use it. I love the guitar tuner that comes with it. That is so handy.

mixmkr
Who's using Sonar X3 exclusively - no outside plugs

 
Me

Almost there.  Sonar's lack of full featured sampler/slicer means I have to use third party for that.  I do find myself using built-in plugs more and more. Sometimes i think if one did a Pepsi challenge sort of test with people using plugins, the results would be a lot closer than conventional thinking would suggest.  I'm not saying that each and every Sonar plugin is equal too or better than third party plugs, but that for many the price difference does not offer the equivalent difference in performance.

mixmkr
I suppose the question is still valid if they're on your machine, but never get used... or VERY rarely.
 
At one time I had waaaaay too many plugs... a lot of that free junk and realized I never really used them. They're now off my main hard drives.   I'm not using X3 as of yet, but the idea of JUST X3 (and maybe a stereo editor) sounds appealing.
The ProChannel, Breverb, etc seems to fill that need and I don't need a pile of "boutique" or different reverbs, flangers, etc.  I like going to my FX list and not scrolling for days.  For ME, if I can't get a decent sound out of these tools, it's not the software...  it's garbage in garbage out.  But that's me speaking about me.
 
I know some swear by their UAD or Waves or Valhalla room ....or just have a BIG pallet to chose from.  .. but the idea of a native, stripped down setup seems really appealing at this point.
 
Excluding VSTi of course  :-)

 . . . guess that makes us pseudo-exclusive to Sonar plugs, since we had to go elsewhere to get proper soft synths.
 
I was using only the Sonar Producer included plugins for audio processing for a time . . . then I discovered I really had to buy Valhalla Room because I liked the sound of it better than Sonitus or Breverb . . . then I discovered Ozone 5 was better for mastering . . . oh yeah, then I discovered BFD2 was the best drums . . . oh right, then I had to have the Melodyne Editor upgrade . . . what? MusicLab's Real Guitar on sale !! . . . but other than those, after purchasing all of the Sonar Prochannel plugins, I can't think of anything one might need to create some great music, except, oh yeah, a better mic, and a better guitar, 88 key weighted midi controller, and my mixer's getting old . . . . . . .
 
Sonar X-whatever Producer @ $149 / year really seems like the best deal.
The centre of the wheel that makes it all go around.

I try to use as many native plugs as I can without resorting to 3rd party plugs.
 
BUT, you won't find any of my projects that don't include BFD2 & T-Racks, and a few others from Nomad Factory

My X3  is currently on a new lap top so I'm looking to keep my set up as lean and mean as possible .
Aside from adding the Overloud VKFX rack and grabbing a bunch of the Addictive Drum Midis ,
I'm pretty much stock .
I'm actually very plesantly surprised with how good this version of SONAR is 
all the best , 
Kenny

I haven't used Sonar in about 2 years since X1 and will jump back in with X3d, so I'm glad to hear the reliance on a boatload of external plugins is becoming less of a requirement. One thing I dreaded doing was constantly trying to keep all those disparate plugins up to date. Each one has a different website you need to go to and try to figure out what the latest version is, some have their own installers, some have their own licensing and activation schemes.
 
By last count my plugin count is approaching 400 (I'm sure there are people with much more than that). Sure I don't use them all but I need to keep them around because I've used some of them in older projects that I might want to work on again.
 
Once I install X3d I'm going to create a new plugin folder and just put the absolute minimum 3rd party plugins in there and rely on the Sonar plugins as much as possible.
 
However I feel kind of bad for some of the independent plugin developers as I'm sure this trend is causing their sales to dry up.

All my plugs are inside SONAR (Waves, UAD, Izotope, Voxengo, IK Multimenia, Native Instruments.......).
 
How does Juan use "outside" plugs while "inside" SONAR?

SilkTone

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All my plugs are inside SONAR (Waves, UAD, Izotope, Voxengo, IK Multimenia, Native Instruments.......).
 
How does Juan use "outside" plugs while "inside" SONAR?

"Outside" plugins are those ones that you move out of the main Sonar window onto your secondary monitor

First off, I love the Pro Channel and most of the effects for it but, other than the CA2A, I find the other compressors barely useable. They all seem to make everything I've tried to use them on sound thin. They seem to suck the low end out of everything I've put them on. So, I have to stick with my Waves CLA compressors, Waves Renaissance compressor, the Bootsy comps, VladG, etc.
I'd love to stay in the Pro Channel for everything but, I'll have to wait for them to add some better sounding compressors to do that.
PS
Also, some more choices in delays would be nice.